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       #Post#: 106321--------------------------------------------------
       PCN Euro Parking Services Milton Keynes Jardines (JD GYM)
   DIR By: Johndoe9991
       Date: January 17, 2026, 5:36 pm
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       Good Evening Everyone,
       Im making this post as I have received a PCN from Euro Parking
       Services at the JD Gym/Jardines in Milton Keynes.
       The Trouble is, I recently moved address and basically It's all
       been going to my parents and my father is disabled. Effectively,
       I was unaware I was even getting PCN's from this private car
       park Operator.
       I received one PCN, which I unsuccessfully appealed, I tried to
       contact the Landlord with no avail and I was prepared to pay £60
       just to not deal with the hassle.
       Later on this week, I went to my parents placed to find a letter
       from these thieves that apparently they had previously issued me
       a PCN from 2 months ago and I didn't pay, no correspondence in
       the post or anything!!
       So now I am fuming, I have (to my awareness anyway) Two PCN from
       these thieves.
       I refuse to pay now and want to know what my rights are as I
       have already unsuccessfully appealed with EPS.
       They have some of the worst reviews out there and are known for
       being very scammy. In fact, when you try to pay their fee, it
       doesn't even allow you which I recorded on my phone.
       I am aware that appealing with the IAS is useless. My main
       argument or the terms of my argument shall I say is that they
       claim I 'parked on their premises without entering registration
       on kiosk' there is no kiosk in the GYM and I have written proof
       from Jardines that their kiosk they use for these spots is only
       open until 6PM. All of these fines were issued past 6PM, So
       basically how can I even enter my registration if their kiosk is
       closed?
       If anyone can offer any advice/suggestions going forward, I
       would greatly appreciate it. I may add, I have changed address
       but can't seem to find a formal way of informing them of my new
       address.
       #Post#: 106336--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Euro Parking Services Milton Keynes Jardines (JD GYM)
   DIR By: RichardW
       Date: January 18, 2026, 2:41 am
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       Please post the PCN (use an external host) and a street view
       link to the location.
       To update your address you need to send a data rectification
       notice to their data protection officer (details should be on
       the PCN) instructing them to update your address for service and
       to erase any old addresses they hold for you.
       If you don't want to pay, then you will have to weather the
       storm of debt collectors letters (which you can ignore) and
       actually defend a small claims court claim (for which advice
       will be provided and is usually discontinued as long as you
       defend). Come back for advice when you receive a Letter of
       Claim.
       #Post#: 106347--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Euro Parking Services Milton Keynes Jardines (JD GYM)
   DIR By: ixxy
       Date: January 18, 2026, 4:24 am
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       And calm down, referring to them as thieves isn't helping or
       appropriate. The fact their letters were going to an address you
       didn't have regular access to is on you. If it had been a NIP
       you'd be in a lot more trouble.
       Provide the information requested above, this could well hinge
       around the availability to register at their kiosk but we need
       the facts to guide you
       As above you can probably avoid paying them if you play the long
       game although the fact you have 3 PCNs means they may actually
       go all the way to court.
       #Post#: 106349--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Euro Parking Services Milton Keynes Jardines (JD GYM)
   DIR By: Dave65
       Date: January 18, 2026, 4:44 am
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       Also a copy of what was put in the appeal.
       Was the driver identified?
       It should be "the driver" parked etc.
       #Post#: 106439--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Euro Parking Services Milton Keynes Jardines (JD GYM)
   DIR By: Johndoe9991
       Date: January 18, 2026, 4:34 pm
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       Hello everyone, Thanks for the reply.
       I have attached images below of one of the two PCN's I have
       received.
       [img width=135
       height=180]
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  HTML https://postimg.cc/LqggjJ2w
       Google Street view (Bay Marked 2)
  HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/52BcJ8kPq2zfbi7i8
       Signage:
  HTML https://postimg.cc/cgm3LVsZ
       I have sent them an email to notify them of my updated address.
       The appeal I used was:
       I dispute your 'parking charge', as the keeper of the vehicle. I
       deny any liability or contractual agreement and I will be making
       a complaint about your predatory conduct to your client
       landowner.
       There will be no admissions as to who was driving and no
       assumptions can be drawn. Since your PCN is a vague template, I
       require an explanation of the allegation and your evidence. You
       must include a close up actual photograph of the sign you
       contend was at the location on the material date as well as your
       images of the vehicle.
       If the allegation concerns a PDT machine, the data supplied in
       response to this appeal must include the record of payments made
       - showing partial VRNs - and an explanation of the reason for
       the PCN, because your Notice does not explain it.
       If the allegation involves an alleged overstay of minutes, your
       evidence must include the actual grace period agreed by the
       landowner.
       I have contacted the landowner to Cancel the PCN.
       Thank you for your cooperation and I look forward to receiving
       your response within the relevant timescales specified under the
       British Parking Association Ltd Code of Practice.
       #Post#: 106440--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Euro Parking Services Milton Keynes Jardines (JD GYM)
   DIR By: Johndoe9991
       Date: January 18, 2026, 4:44 pm
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       Just to update as a bit of context about the image describing
       the location;
       The area is poorly lit at night, particularly on a wintery/foggy
       day. You can barely see the signage.
       While yes, at my fault I did not change my address, I regularly
       visit this address. I would've easily picked up on a notice.
       In fact, I would've happily paid the £60 to just avoid the
       drama, but now they claim they sent me a PCN prior (I did not
       receive one) I am now being sent the standard DO NOT IGNORE this
       NOTICE.
       I have emailed them to confirm how many PCN's were actually
       issued.
       The trouble is, the JD GYM Sign sits at this car park and I see
       gym users regularly parking here. More importantly, the JD Gym
       does not make anyone aware of where to park. It is purely set up
       to rake in money.
       As they have not identified the driver, I am tempted to transfer
       liability who is outside of the country and let them mail
       letters across the english channel.
       I would have happily abided by parking rules if it wasn't
       misleading as shown in the image above.
       Please let me know on thoughts and going forward.
       Appreciate all the help and support!
       #Post#: 106446--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Euro Parking Services Milton Keynes Jardines (JD GYM)
   DIR By: DWMB2
       Date: January 18, 2026, 5:19 pm
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       --- Quote from: Johndoe9991 link ---
       >
       > I am tempted to transfer liability who is outside of the
       country and let them mail letters across the english channel.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Do NOT do this. Lying in order to avoid liability for an alleged
       debt is a very quick way to turn a civil dispute into a serious
       criminal offence.
       You can challenge the matter on signage and any other relevant
       grounds, but you must not be dishonest.
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