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       #Post#: 106276--------------------------------------------------
       Owner or Keeper?
       By: Fluffykins Date: January 17, 2026, 9:03 am
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       Saw North Norfolk Council are launching a consultation for their
       car parking.  See
  HTML https://www.north-norfolk.gov.uk/tasks/your-community/public-consultation-for-car-parking/
       The document itself us here:
  HTML https://www.north-norfolk.gov.uk/media/11881/car-park-order-2026.pdf
       There's some amusing excursions into ownership and nothing but
       nothing about the Keeper. F'r instance:
       "....a season ticket may be transferred to another vehicle under
       the control or  ownership of the Driver in place of the
       vehicle.."
       ".....Penalty Charge Notice to that effect will be attached to
       the  vehicle in a conspicuous place or handed to the Driver by a
       Civil Enforcement Officer, or posted to the owner....."
       "...... a notice to owner may be served by the Enforcement
       Authority on the owner of the vehicle....."
       ".......be able to proceed against the Owner of the vehicle as
       if that individual  was the driver...."
       I'm caught between asking them how they will determine who the
       owner is and just letting them run with it.
       The word Keeper is not mentioned once.
       #Post#: 106295--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Owner or Keeper?
       By: stamfordman Date: January 17, 2026, 12:06 pm
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       Civil traffic law concerns owner liability. The owner is
       presumed to be the keeper as that's what the DVLA holds for a
       vehicle but can be handed off in certain circumstances to others
       such as hirers of hire/lease vehicles.
       #Post#: 106301--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Owner or Keeper?
       By: Fluffykins Date: January 17, 2026, 12:26 pm
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       And there was me hoping for some fun
       Ah well.
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