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       #Post#: 106264--------------------------------------------------
       Oxford City Council/Oxford Direct Services, Excess Parking
       Notice, Gloucester Green car park
   DIR By: LunarMango
       Date: January 17, 2026, 6:42 am
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       Hello,
       I'd appreciate any help/guidance. I've only ever had a yellow
       PCN before so wanted to check this was legit and that they did
       everything correctly when sending this letter. I'm not very
       savvy but it seemed odd to me, didn't say what was done wrong,
       times etc, it's come from Oxford Direct Services but I'm pretty
       sure it's a council run car park.. Also it states it's an
       'Excess Parking Notice' but when looking online, only results
       about Oxford come up so are they using a term that they
       shouldn't be to confuse people?
       Photo of letter:
  HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1J3UxNtMjUKNd3gWz0mZR9D9w7hO9Lkah/view?usp=sharing
       #Post#: 106265--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Oxford City Council/Oxford Direct Services, Excess Parking
       Notice, Gloucester Green car park
   DIR By: davidmcn
       Date: January 17, 2026, 6:54 am
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       It's just a department of the council (note the gov.uk email
       address).
       #Post#: 106284--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Oxford City Council/Oxford Direct Services, Excess Parking
       Notice, Gloucester Green car park
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: January 17, 2026, 11:02 am
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       Oxford City is one of the few that still issues excess charges
       notices and I didn't know they had driver liability.
       The driver should have got the windscreen notice as per the
       pictures which would have had a discount offer.
       What happened. The contravention:
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       #Post#: 106290--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Oxford City Council/Oxford Direct Services, Excess Parking
       Notice, Gloucester Green car park
   DIR By: LunarMango
       Date: January 17, 2026, 11:35 am
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       --- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
       >
       > Oxford City is one of the few that still issues excess charges
       notices and I didn't know they had driver liability.
       >
       > The driver should have got the windscreen notice as per the
       pictures which would have had a discount offer.
       >
       > What happened. The contravention:
       >
       >
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       >
       >
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       >
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       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Thank you - that's helpful. There was nothing on the windscreen
       when the driver came back to the car. Is there any scope to
       challenge due to this? As the potential to pay a discounted fine
       has been lost. Or whether there are cameras to show that it
       wasn't there.
       #Post#: 106293--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Oxford City Council/Oxford Direct Services, Excess Parking
       Notice, Gloucester Green car park
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: January 17, 2026, 11:58 am
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       OK so this is by the site admin so I've tagged him.
       [member=1]cp8759[/member]
  HTML https://www.ftla.uk/announcements/excess-charge-notices-guidance-for-those-giving-advice
       #Post#: 106396--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Oxford City Council/Oxford Direct Services, Excess Parking
       Notice, Gloucester Green car park
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: January 18, 2026, 10:30 am
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       Hi [member=8030]LunarMango[/member], it is entirely illegal for
       Oxford City Council to enforce at all and I'm more than happy to
       help you fight this, however this will likely require a trip to
       the magistrates' court, but you won't be alone. The last time we
       dealt with something like this, this was the result:
  HTML https://www.greatyarmouthmercury.co.uk/news/24411882.police-falsely-accuse-man-illegal-parking-yarmouth/
  HTML https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1rrx1170qyo
       For very much the same reasons why Norfolk constabulary can't
       enforce parking under the criminal law, Oxford City Council
       cannot issue ECNs either, they just ignore the law because so
       far nobody has held them accountable for their illegal
       behaviour.
       Please contact me directly at ivanleo@gmail.com if you'd like to
       pursue this.
       #Post#: 116725--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Oxford City Council/Oxford Direct Services, Excess Parking
       Notice, Gloucester Green car park
   DIR By: Phantomcrusader
       Date: April 22, 2026, 12:47 pm
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       Has there been any progress with this case? Similar to Oxford,
       Exeter Council back in 2010 were enforcing the local hospital
       car park with excess/standard charge notices with threats of
       magistrate court despite the car park falling within a civil
       enforcement area. After seeking advice from a QC they realised
       they were in the wrong.
       Council meeting minutes here
  HTML https://committees.exeter.gov.uk/mgIssueHistoryHome.aspx?IId=12375&Opt=0.
       #Post#: 116727--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Oxford City Council/Oxford Direct Services, Excess Parking
       Notice, Gloucester Green car park
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: April 22, 2026, 12:58 pm
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       No, but I have taken action to ensure that the legal advice
       doesn't get deleted before 2030, at which point it will be a
       historical record and they will be compelled to disclose it.
       #Post#: 116755--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Oxford City Council/Oxford Direct Services, Excess Parking
       Notice, Gloucester Green car park
   DIR By: Phantomcrusader
       Date: April 22, 2026, 7:52 pm
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       I'd be very surprised if Oxford CC has not discussed this matter
       internally since they were made aware of it many years ago.
       Obviously they have a financial interest in denying any wrong
       doing. Have you CP8759 made any FOI requests from either Oxford
       or the communications between DfT and Oxford CC concerning this
       matter?
       #Post#: 116761--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Oxford City Council/Oxford Direct Services, Excess Parking
       Notice, Gloucester Green car park
   DIR By: tincombe
       Date: April 23, 2026, 4:12 am
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       IMO, if you qualify the issue should be raised with the
       council's external auditor. Contact the council and find out
       when their accounts are published and how objections to these
       may be raised with the external auditor- there's a 30-day
       window.
  HTML https://www.nao.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Council-accounts-a-guide-to-your-rights.pdf
       This is not for objecting to your PCN as such, it is a means of
       focusing attention on the principle.
       If you're successful, and it appears that the legal position is
       clear, then the external auditor would include this in their
       report to the COUNCIL.
       You get to the highest level of responsibility and decision
       making and bypass the foothills/molehills of self-interested
       officers in the parking hierarchy.
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