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#Post#: 105818--------------------------------------------------
Tower Hamlets, Code 81 parked in a restricted area in a car park
, Roman road Rogers estate, double yellow lines
By: fahmed17 Date: January 14, 2026, 4:50 am
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Hi All,
I received two PCNs in August 2025 for parking on double yellow
lines in my estate car park.
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At the time I did not have an allocated bay and the council were
in the process of taking over the management of enforcement from
a private company. The council said that there would be no
enforcement till 01/10/2025 (I’m in Bethnal Green east ward).
This was stated on their website, social media and a notice that
was put up on the entrance to our estate.
HTML https://www.towerhamlets.gov.uk/lgnl/housing/Council-Tenants-and-Leaseholders/Estate-Management/Estate-parking.aspx
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I had a meeting with my Mayor about me needing a bay (due to
personal circumstances) and that I was parking on double yellow
lines. The Mayor then contacted the head of parking on our
behalf and we received a letter saying to park as we currently
were and there would be no enforcement until the live date. The
letter mentioned my wife’s name as she raised it with the Mayor,
but she is a named driver on the insurance policy so hopefully
that won’t be an issue.
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No where on the council sites or letters was it said that
parking on double yellow lines was not allowed and not included
when they mention ‘no enforcement’.
I raised an informal challenge on the council portal explaining
all this and giving the evidence above. The status of the PCN
was ‘On Hold: Challenge Received’ and a date next to it that was
roughly over 3 months after the challenge was received. Once
this date came up the PCN went to a status of ‘Off Hold
Compensate’.
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I assumed that the challenge was successful as I received no
communication and when I checked online for the status it said
that the PCN would be cancelled, therefore you can imagine my
shock when I received an NTO and for the full amount too not the
discounted rate. I feel this is unfair as I never got a response
so had no clue if the challenge was accepted or not and now
expected to pay the full amount too, was it not supposed to be
on hold when being challenged?
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Whilst typing up this post I noticed that when raising an
informal challenge they asked for address which I did not
provide, I missed this when raising the challenge. I assumed
they would have the details seeing as they have my number plate
and how they were able to send me an NTO to my address. Would
this be the reason I received no response and have no other
option but to pay the full amount for both PCNs?
#Post#: 105823--------------------------------------------------
Re: Tower Hamlets, Code 81 parked in a restricted area in a car
park, Roman road Rogers estate, double yellow lines
By: fraser.mitchell Date: January 14, 2026, 5:01 am
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If you have an NtO, you can submit reps against it, just as you
did for the PCN, and once again show all the letters etc that
you submitted before. If you look on the original PCN, somewhere
it will say that a challenge to the PCN will be considered, but
if they serve an NtO anyway, then you must responde to the NtO.
Do not ignore this NtO or it will be game over. You can just
re-submit what you submitted before.
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Re: Tower Hamlets, Code 81 parked in a restricted area in a car
park, Roman road Rogers estate, double yellow lines
By: fahmed17 Date: January 14, 2026, 5:08 am
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Yep I will respond to NTO, just wanted to get some advice before
I do. Do I have a case to challenge (as they didn't respond to
me for the informal challenge) or should I just pay the full
amounts?
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Re: Tower Hamlets, Code 81 parked in a restricted area in a car
park, Roman road Rogers estate, double yellow lines
By: stamfordman Date: January 14, 2026, 5:46 am
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Yellow lines have no meaning in an off-street car park. A
correct contravention here would probably be parking outside
bays. A restricted area would be one marked by say cross
hatching.
There should be a terms board for the car park - is there?
But with no enforcement until 1/9/25 (not 1/10/25) this must be
an easy win.
Draft new reps and post here.
What are the dates of both PCNs.
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Re: Tower Hamlets, Code 81 parked in a restricted area in a car
park, Roman road Rogers estate, double yellow lines
By: fahmed17 Date: January 14, 2026, 6:29 am
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There are no markings other than bays and double yellow lines.
This is the boards they put up on the estate
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My neighbour also challenged his PCN as he had parked similarly
on double yellow lines and received a response saying that it
didn't matter that bays were not enforced at the time.
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I was going to challenge NTO with what I posted above (without
the whole not noticing address was required when raising an
informal challenge)
Date of contraventions are 15/08/2025 and 24/08/2025 and date of
notice on the NTOs are 29/12/2025 and 05/01/2026
#Post#: 105848--------------------------------------------------
Re: Tower Hamlets, Code 81 parked in a restricted area in a car
park, Roman road Rogers estate, double yellow lines
By: stamfordman Date: January 14, 2026, 6:49 am
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They are talking rubbish about double yellow lines as they can
only be enforced on-street (and do not establish a restricted
area in a car park in my view).
As you can see from the terms board the correct contravention is
parking outside bays.
If the car park had no enforcement order at the time nothing in
the car park could be enforced.
Don't rush reps as you now know what they'll say so you need to
head this off.
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Re: Tower Hamlets, Code 81 parked in a restricted area in a car
park, Roman road Rogers estate, double yellow lines
By: fahmed17 Date: January 14, 2026, 2:59 pm
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I had a look online and PCNs can be enforced on double yellow
lines on car parks. The council site also says this
HTML https://www.towerhamlets.gov.uk/lgnl/transport_and_streets/roads,_highways_and_pavements/yellow_lines.aspx
I was going to say that no where on the site, social media or
notices was it mentioned specifically that parking on double
yellow lines would be enforced, only that enforcement would
start from 01/09/2025 which gives the impression that there
would be no enforcement of any kind until the start date.
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Re: Tower Hamlets, Code 81 parked in a restricted area in a car
park, Roman road Rogers estate, double yellow lines
By: stamfordman Date: January 14, 2026, 4:43 pm
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Where did you find that yellow lines can be enforced in car
parks? Your council link doesn't say so.
#Post#: 105948--------------------------------------------------
Re: Tower Hamlets, Code 81 parked in a restricted area in a car
park, Roman road Rogers estate, double yellow lines
By: fahmed17 Date: January 14, 2026, 5:29 pm
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The link is a page for yellow lines and has a section that says
'parking on estates owned by the council', I assume they are
talking about yellow lines on council estates.
#Post#: 106026--------------------------------------------------
Re: Tower Hamlets, Code 81 parked in a restricted area in a car
park, Roman road Rogers estate, double yellow lines
By: stamfordman Date: January 15, 2026, 8:52 am
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This is the notice of the order and it refers to double yellows
thus:
d) ‘At any time’ waiting restrictions (double-yellow lines) will
be provided on all kerbside not designated as parking, in these
off-street areas (car parks), vehicles would be prohibited from
waiting other than in marked out parking bays.
But there's no such contravention off-street as no waiting on a
restricted street, so they rely on restricted area - I have seen
a couple of recent adjudications where this has been assumed to
be correct so let's park that. Someone else may know.
The order for the lines must surely only be in force from the
live order date, so that's the way to go.
HTML https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/4850148
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