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Elite parking pcn
DIR By: sofnet2000
Date: January 12, 2026, 2:55 pm
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Hi all ,
Got a pcn for parking in contractor/visitor parking without
displaying a permit.
Pcn picture
HTML https://ibb.co/gb0RsQ46
looked up at the picture they took and it doesn't show the sign
(behind the van)
HTML https://ibb.co/HTdmGtrR
the sign after I removed my van
HTML https://ibb.co/C3nLNXZT
Any ideas on how to challenge it? can I challenge the fast that
the pictyure only shows my van parked up without the sign and
therefore there is no contravention
Thanks
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Re: Elite parking pcn
DIR By: RichardW
Date: January 12, 2026, 4:50 pm
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Are you the reg keeper of the van?
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Re: Elite parking pcn
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: January 12, 2026, 4:54 pm
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Before we get into appeals, I note this is a British Gas van -
who is the registered keeper of the vehicle, British Gas? I ask,
as this may affect the approach to appeals.
--- Quote from: sofnet2000 link ---
>
> can I challenge the fast that the pictyure only shows my van
parked up without the sign and therefore there is no
contravention
>
--- End Quote ---
If you do, they'll probably refer you to one of the other
pictures taken at the time, showing the vehicle parked directly
next to the sign:
HTML https://i.ibb.co/Z1hD1PPD/YUl3a-HFu-T2xn-VUsybit-LTDV2-Vk-Zh-VVp6-NG4w-Vk-Vrc-Glz-TSt-FNDl-Jc-Wgr-RDJDZE45c-TRRYm-VOZnh-OVj-VFOj.jpg
HTML https://ibb.co/n8DJ8vvJ
A far stronger challenge would seem to be that the ticket was
issued for "parked in a Contractor / Visitor Bay without a valid
permit", but the terms on the signage do not require a permit to
be displayed. Do you have (or can you acquire) evidence to
demonstrate that the driver was working as a contractor at that
site?
Here's a better image of the signage in case we need it for the
future;
HTML https://i.ibb.co/C3hvQ4p2/Qzgrbj-J6a-Xpvb-FVBZDVr-K1-U5-RUl5-UFl-KSHl-Kd0t-Db-C9-HTlp-Kem83a1d-Td1-FPNktl-VEl6b-FVkc1h-DQk-VOOjo3-MT.jpg
HTML https://ibb.co/cSDtQRKL
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Re: Elite parking pcn
DIR By: sofnet2000
Date: January 13, 2026, 4:13 am
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--- Quote from: DWMB2 link ---
>
> Before we get into appeals, I note this is a British Gas van -
who is the registered keeper of the vehicle, British Gas? I ask,
as this may affect the approach to appeals.
>
> [quote author=sofnet2000 link=topic=9474.msg105588#msg105588
date=1768251334]
> can I challenge the fast that the pictyure only shows my van
parked up without the sign and therefore there is no
contravention
>
--- End Quote ---
If you do, they'll probably refer you to one of the other
pictures taken at the time, showing the vehicle parked directly
next to the sign:
[img width=600.0000610351562
height=800.0000610351562]
HTML https://i.ibb.co/Z1hD1PPD/YUl3a-HFu-T2xn-VUsybit-LTDV2-Vk-Zh-VVp6-NG4w-Vk-Vrc-Glz-TSt-FNDl-Jc-Wgr-RDJDZE45c-TRRYm-VOZnh-OVj-VFOj.jpg[/img]
HTML https://ibb.co/n8DJ8vvJ
A far stronger challenge would seem to be that the ticket was
issued for "parked in a Contractor / Visitor Bay without a valid
permit", but the terms on the signage do not require a permit to
be displayed. Do you have (or can you acquire) evidence to
demonstrate that the driver was working as a contractor at that
site?
Here's a better image of the signage in case we need it for the
future;
[img width=600.0000610351562
height=800.0000610351562]
HTML https://i.ibb.co/C3hvQ4p2/Qzgrbj-J6a-Xpvb-FVBZDVr-K1-U5-RUl5-UFl-KSHl-Kd0t-Db-C9-HTlp-Kem83a1d-Td1-FPNktl-VEl6b-FVkc1h-DQk-VOOjo3-MT.jpg[/img]
HTML https://ibb.co/cSDtQRKL
[/quote]
Wasn't working onsite, just parked for 20 mins and got a ticket.
Van velongs to BG.
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Re: Elite parking pcn
DIR By: RichardW
Date: January 13, 2026, 7:04 am
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How will BG handle a parking ticket if it gets sent to them?
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Re: Elite parking pcn
DIR By: sofnet2000
Date: January 13, 2026, 7:44 am
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--- Quote from: RichardW link ---
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> How will BG handle a parking ticket if it gets sent to them?
>
--- End Quote ---
If you mean after 28 days elapsed, they will pay and pass it to
driver via payroll
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Re: Elite parking pcn
DIR By: sofnet2000
Date: January 15, 2026, 12:08 pm
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any ideas guys? have I got a chance to cancel it or shall I pay
it?
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Re: Elite parking pcn
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: January 15, 2026, 1:02 pm
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--- Quote from: sofnet2000 link ---
>
> Wasn't working onsite, just parked for 20 mins and got a
ticket. Van velongs to BG.
>
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This weakens your position somewhat, insofar as on the face of
it, the driver was not a genuine visitor or contractor. One
angle that still remains is to argue that the signage does not
extend a contractual offer to park to those who are not visitors
or contractors. The downside of this argument is that there's a
fair chance that neither the parking company nor POPLA would
accept it, so you'd need to be prepared to defend a potential
court claim, which we can of course advise with.
Our ordinary advice with windscreen notices is to appeal as the
keeper (not revealing who was driving) as this can lead to
technical arguments you can exploit, but this seems like it
would not be viable in your case as the keeper is British Gas
who will just pay up.
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