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Brittania Parking Waitrose Hythe
By: roythebus Date: January 10, 2026, 8:23 pm
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My partner has just received a letter very similar to this one:
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/re-overstay-waitrose-in-south-woodford-britannia-parking/msg102952/#msg102952
But they make no reference to the RK, or the driver, but "the
motorist". I'll post both sides of the letter later on, Ive just
finished a late duty and my insomnia needs to rest!
does anyone know if "the motorist exists as a legal entity? a
question i've asked before with no reply.
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Re: Brittania Parking Waitrose Hythe
By: ixxy Date: January 11, 2026, 2:23 am
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We need to see your partners letter. Dates and specific
circumstances are important. In the letter linked to there
appears to be no mention of POFA so as long as the drivers
identity is not revealed they can't hold anyone liable for the
charges, certainly not the keeper. Thats a stronger defence
than quibbling over the term motorist, although it does look
like the wording on the letter was written by an amateur, not
sure how you can issue a charge to a vehicle.
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Re: Brittania Parking Waitrose Hythe
By: DWMB2 Date: January 11, 2026, 6:12 am
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The Private Parking Sector Single Code of Practice frequently
uses the term "motorist", although helpfully it isn't one of the
defined terms in the CoP.
That said, I agree with ixxy that it's not something to get hung
up on. The answer to the question is unlikely to be found in the
appeals process or the County Courts, and the answer is also
unlikely to be the key to getting the charge cancelled.
Once we see the notice we can advise on next steps.
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Re: Brittania Parking Waitrose Hythe
By: roythebus Date: January 11, 2026, 8:27 am
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Yes, I'll suggest to her to ask the manager at Waitrose as i
understand a lot of shopping was done there along with a friend,
and a meal in their cafe. Need to get a pic of the T&Cs as well.
We're working opposite shifts at the moment so won't see her
until tomorrow morning!
I'm not too hung up on the term "motorist" either.
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Re: Brittania Parking Waitrose Hythe
By: roythebus Date: January 14, 2026, 8:02 am
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Here's the redacted letter, both sides.
HTML https://ibb.co/vxRqDzNP
HTML https://ibb.co/BHMXPS9R
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Re: Brittania Parking Waitrose Hythe
By: jfollows Date: January 14, 2026, 8:30 am
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If the driver has not been identified, this notice is too late
to use PoFA 2012 to transfer the liability from the unknown
driver to the registered keeper. Deemed to be delivered 7
January, which is one day too late.
The notice does not appear to attempt to use this legislation,
hence possibly why the vaguer term “motorist” was used. The
registered keeper should “appeal” to say she’s not liable.
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Re: Brittania Parking Waitrose Hythe
By: DWMB2 Date: January 14, 2026, 8:32 am
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As jfollows rightly notes, too late for PoFA compliance. The
keeper could send a standard PoFA based appeal such as the one
below:
[indent]Dear Sirs,
I have received your Parking Charge Notice (Ref: ________) for
vehicle registration mark ____ ___, in which you allege that the
driver has incurred a parking charge. I note from your
correspondence that you are not seeking to hold me liable as the
registered keeper, under Schedule 4 of the Protection of
Freedoms Act 2012 ("The Act"). You have chosen not to issue a
Notice to Keeper in accordance with The Act, and it is now too
late for you to do so.
There is no obligation for me to name the driver and I will not
be doing so. I am therefore unable to help you further with this
matter, and look forward to your confirmation that the charge
has been cancelled. If you choose to decline this appeal, you
must issue a POPLA code.
Yours,[/indent]
If appealing online, be careful there are no drop down/tick
boxes that cause them to identify who was driving, and keep a
close eye on the spam folder for their response. If they do not
respond within 28 days, chase them.
Britannia are sometimes an awkward bunch, so if they do reject
the appeal, I'd be confident that a POPLA appeal will see it
off.
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Re: Brittania Parking Waitrose Hythe
By: roythebus Date: January 14, 2026, 2:54 pm
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Should I replace the word "driver" with their term "motorist" as
it's what they use.
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Re: Brittania Parking Waitrose Hythe
By: DWMB2 Date: January 14, 2026, 5:54 pm
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No - Britannia can use whatever wording they choose, the wording
used by the relevant legislation (PoFA) is that which I would
use.
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Re: Brittania Parking Waitrose Hythe
By: roythebus Date: January 15, 2026, 10:46 am
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Understood, thanks for that.
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