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#Post#: 105464--------------------------------------------------
Re: not paying for fuel
By: Southpaw82 Date: January 12, 2026, 2:16 am
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[quote author=Dave Green link=topic=9447.msg105461#msg105461
date=1768188080]
[quote author=Southpaw82 link=topic=9447.msg105435#msg105435
date=1768156734]
[quote author=The Slithy Tove
link=topic=9447.msg105410#msg105410 date=1768147756]
And you can't transfer a debt without both parties (Morrisons
and Pay My Fuel) contacting the alleged debtor stating this
[/quote]
Are you sure?
[/quote]
The Slithy Toad is partly correct.
[/quote]
As are you.
#Post#: 105468--------------------------------------------------
Re: not paying for fuel
By: lateman Date: January 12, 2026, 3:35 am
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I've just noticed too, that on the letter it says that if i
don't "settle the debt within 14 days, the case will be
escalated to the next process and issued to a third party for
debt collector which may lead to court proceedings"
(the grammar is _terrible_ isn't it?)
but anyway, my question is: do i have 14 days from the date of
the letter or when it was served (almost a week later)?
and what do you guys think of this thing about being passed onto
a third party? i thought these guys _were_ the third party?
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Re: not paying for fuel
By: andy_foster Date: January 12, 2026, 3:48 am
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Is that a serious question?
The letter appears to be at least 90% bluff and bluster.
#Post#: 105473--------------------------------------------------
Re: not paying for fuel
By: The Slithy Tove Date: January 12, 2026, 3:51 am
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[quote author=lateman link=topic=9447.msg105468#msg105468
date=1768210535]
... the case will be escalated to the next process and issued to
a third party for debt collector which may lead to court
proceedings"
but anyway, my question is: do i have 14 days from the date of
the letter or when it was served (almost a week later)?
[/quote]
A debt collector has even less ability to do anything than PMF.
Don't worry about that particular threat, and you can safely
ignore anything a third party debt collector sends you. That's
all they can do: send letters with ever more red ink and block
capitals.
#Post#: 105524--------------------------------------------------
Re: not paying for fuel
By: PallasAthena Date: January 12, 2026, 8:54 am
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PayMyFuel letter is addressed to OP as the the Registered
Keeper. It appears the OP in this case is also in the photograph
as the driver but I am wondering what if PayMyFuel photographs
did not evidence who was driving? Private Parking Companies
have, in principle at least, the ability to shift the liability
from the driver to the to the registered keeper in some
circumstances but does any simlar right exist in non-payment of
fuel cases like this?
The FAQs on their website
HTML https://www.paymyfuel.com/frequently-asked-questions
include
this statement but they give no indication of the legal basis
for it:
"It wasn’t me that filled up, it was a family member, friend
etc.
As the registered keeper, you are liable for any fines unless
the party responsible volunteers to take responsibility for the
case."
#Post#: 105526--------------------------------------------------
Re: not paying for fuel
By: andy_foster Date: January 12, 2026, 9:15 am
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That statement appears to be about as accurate as their claim to
be able to issue fines in the first place.
#Post#: 105548--------------------------------------------------
Re: not paying for fuel
By: NewJudge Date: January 12, 2026, 10:38 am
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[quote]It wasn’t me that filled up, it was a family member,
friend etc.
As the registered keeper, you are liable for any fines unless
the party responsible volunteers to take responsibility for the
case."
[/quote]
Their FAQs also says this:
"The car doesn’t belong to me I sold it
The information from DVLA still shows you as the registered
keeper at the date of event, unless you can provide evidence
that this is not the case the liability still lies with you"
The way these people operate is disgraceful. They are citing
provisions in criminal law relating to VED and properly framed
provisions to transfer responsibility to RKs so as to chase
debts.
#Post#: 105551--------------------------------------------------
Re: not paying for fuel
By: andy_foster Date: January 12, 2026, 11:00 am
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I refer the learned gentleman to my previous answer.
However, I am struggling to see how going through the letter
piecemeal and posting up every clearly bollox claim or statement
as a new post assists the OP.
If anyone wants to go through the fishing net and pick holes in
it for funsies, feel free to start a thread in the Flame Pit.
You don't have to call it "Steaming pile of utter bollox letter
from PayMyFuel", but it might help others to know what to
expect.
#Post#: 105595--------------------------------------------------
Re: not paying for fuel
By: lateman Date: January 12, 2026, 3:35 pm
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i know that letter is a shambles, but to be honest, I'm not
totally confident that they wouldn't be able to successfully sue
me in court for the "penalty" charge. i can't afford
representation, and i don't know where to look for the
legislation that relates to this, and if i did, I'm not
confident I'd understand it well enough to defend myself.
my wife called to see the manager for me today because i was
working all day. he wouldn't give her a crime number, and
talked all sorts of bs (my favourite was when he told her that
against company policy, i drew fuel and drove off with my driver
door open! you can see from the cctv still they provided that
it's obviously closed!). he definitely sounded like he was just
getting to bully us into paying, and that I'd have to pay PMF,
not the fuel station.
i called MFG, and the guy i spoke to said that he'd open an
investigation, but they couldn't guarantee that PMF wouldn't
chase me for the "fine".
is it worth me filing a police report?
and, with all the other stresses I'm under at the present
moment, with only until Friday before 14 days from the issue of
the letter, I'm thinking i might just begrudgingly, and under
protest, pay the extortion. it goes against every fibre of my
being, but i can't really afford things going wrong, escalating,
and i end up losing anyway =$
but whatever i do, i want to thank every one of you
wholeheartedly for your replies and contributions
#Post#: 105633--------------------------------------------------
Re: not paying for fuel
By: andy_foster Date: January 13, 2026, 3:53 am
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There is no legislation that allows them to issue a fine or
penalty. You would be looking for a very, very long time if you
tried to find it.
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