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       #Post#: 105243--------------------------------------------------
       Smart Parking - Red Lion Whittlesford CB22 4NL
       By: terika4e Date: January 9, 2026, 11:15 am
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       Hi all,
       The driver stayed at hotel nearby (The Duxford Hotel Cambridge
       South M11 Jct 10). They did not stay at or attend the Red Lion.
       I (registered keeper) have just been made aware of both a Notice
       to Keeper dated 01/12/2025 and a Final Reminder dated
       06/01/2026.
       What do you suggest? I do not have photos of signage but here
  HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/QCT9VLqmA7diZpr16
       is the GSV link. PCN
       is here
  HTML https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1vDR_KMVWfBS_biumeYPVuUcUAo21ueDu?usp=sharing
       Cheers,
       terika4e
       #Post#: 105252--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Smart Parking - Red Lion Whittlesford CB22 4NL
       By: ixxy Date: January 9, 2026, 11:46 am
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       This going to need proper signage images, GSV is 2008 so not
       helpful. It looks like the 2 card parks blend into each other so
       this probably hinges on how clearly signed the 2 car parks are.
       On the face of it the PCN is POFA complaint and you're dealing
       with Smart Parking who are IPC members, both of which means even
       with a good case around signage being inadequate it's unlikely
       an initial appeal of IAS appeal will be successful.
       If you're prepared to put up with the debt collectors letters
       and eventually enter a defence when they lodge a court claim you
       will probably avoid paying the PCN as they will most likely
       discontinue before court. Do you want to play the long game?
       #Post#: 105256--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Smart Parking - Red Lion Whittlesford CB22 4NL
       By: terika4e Date: January 9, 2026, 11:52 am
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       I'm unable to take signage pictures.
       They also seem to be using entry and exit times as proof of
       parking which to me doesn't seem to prove the contravention?
       Also, what sort of evidence is necessary to show the driver was
       at another hotel? They are adamant they didn't go near this
       place.
       Thanks.
       #Post#: 105276--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Smart Parking - Red Lion Whittlesford CB22 4NL
       By: ixxy Date: January 9, 2026, 1:40 pm
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       The whole industry works from entry and exit photos, that isn't
       an avenue of appeal except in very specific circumstances.
       As for the driver being adamant they didn't go near the Red
       Lion, if you look at the overview picture on Google maps you'll
       see you drive through the Red Lion car park to enter Duxford
       hotel car park. This is why I said signage and the quality of it
       is important, how clear is the dividing line is between the car
       parks. It's also possible Smart's cameras failed to clock the
       driver exiting the Red Lion car park re-entering later, unlikely
       to miss both but not impossible.
       #Post#: 105723--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Smart Parking - Red Lion Whittlesford CB22 4NL
       By: terika4e Date: January 13, 2026, 10:54 am
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       Thanks all.
       I've taken a look at the satellite imagery of the site as it
       seems the Duxford hotel wasn't built on the GSV.
       It seems to be a shared car park, but obviously I cannot confirm
       without signage.
       I have contacted the Red Lion and explained the situation in
       hopes they can cancel it with Smart Parking.
       Let me know if you have more thoughts on this.
       #Post#: 105747--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Smart Parking - Red Lion Whittlesford CB22 4NL
       By: ixxy Date: January 13, 2026, 1:17 pm
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       I doubt the Red Lion will cancel it, its probably a bit of a
       cash cow for SMART parking and the Red Lion probably wants their
       spaces protecting from hotel guests.
       On the face of it you don't have any obvious grounds for appeal
       unless you can show the signage is poor, which it may well be.
       You can run this down if you really don't want to pay, doesn't
       really matter what your appeal grounds are in this case, it'll
       probably be rejected as will the subsequent appeal to IAS. You
       just need to go through the motions. Debt collectors letters
       will follow which can be ignored, followed ultimately by a
       letter of claim to kick off legal proceedings. You will need to
       engage with that process or risk a default judgment against you.
       If you do defend the claim they will most likely drop it before
       it goes to court.
       So weather the storm for the next 6 months or if you want it to
       go away now you'll need to pay, your choice.
       #Post#: 106038--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Smart Parking - Red Lion Whittlesford CB22 4NL
       By: terika4e Date: January 15, 2026, 9:35 am
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       I have recieved the below reply from the hotel.
       [quote]I have sent this off to our team at cancellations, there
       shouldn't be any issue with it but i'll let you know when I get
       an update from them.[/quote]
       This must happen regularly for them to agree to cancel this.
       Thanks for the help everyone.
       #Post#: 106078--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Smart Parking - Red Lion Whittlesford CB22 4NL
       By: ixxy Date: January 15, 2026, 11:41 am
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       Promising.
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