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       #Post#: 105100--------------------------------------------------
       £100 fine for 2 min stop 
   DIR By: gingerstu
       Date: January 8, 2026, 11:13 am
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       Anyone got any advice to challenge this pile of horse 💩
       Happened at Bradford on Avon health centre. It’s actually inside
       the Bradford on Avon train station car park.
       Any help on challenging this gratefully received.
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       it would appear the car was parked in the space marked with the
       black circle for 2 mins.
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       #Post#: 105101--------------------------------------------------
       Re: £100 fine for 2 min stop 
   DIR By: InterCity125
       Date: January 8, 2026, 11:26 am
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       2 minutes is not generally regarded as a sufficient time to
       establish contract.
       #Post#: 105104--------------------------------------------------
       Re: £100 fine for 2 min stop 
   DIR By: gingerstu
       Date: January 8, 2026, 11:46 am
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       It can therefore reasonably be argued that:
       This falls within a consideration period
       No acceptance of terms occurred
       Therefore no contract was formed, and no charge is due?
       #Post#: 105107--------------------------------------------------
       Re: £100 fine for 2 min stop 
   DIR By: DWMB2
       Date: January 8, 2026, 12:08 pm
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       Yes, neither the parking company nor the IAS are likely to
       agree, but it should be a decent argument should a court claim
       result.
       No harm in trying to beef your argument up somewhat - are you
       close enough to be able to acquire photos of the signage at the
       site?
       #Post#: 105109--------------------------------------------------
       Re: £100 fine for 2 min stop 
   DIR By: gingerstu
       Date: January 8, 2026, 12:12 pm
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       I am.  I can head over there on the weekend.
       I was actually stopping to load a suitcase into the boot of the
       vehicle.  Is it worth citing the Jopson v Homeguard case.
       This was a temporary stop for assisted loading, not parking.
       This distinction is well established in case law. In Jopson v
       Homeguard Services Ltd
       Or should I just keep to 2 mins isn't sufficient time to
       establish a contract?
       #Post#: 105110--------------------------------------------------
       Re: £100 fine for 2 min stop 
   DIR By: DWMB2
       Date: January 8, 2026, 12:13 pm
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       Although maybe park elsewhere if travelling by car  ;)
       #Post#: 105115--------------------------------------------------
       Re: £100 fine for 2 min stop 
   DIR By: Fluffykins
       Date: January 8, 2026, 1:13 pm
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       "It’s actually inside the Bradford on Avon train station car
       park."
       Bylaw controlled land,?
       #Post#: 105122--------------------------------------------------
       Re: £100 fine for 2 min stop 
   DIR By: ixxy
       Date: January 8, 2026, 1:57 pm
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       Is this a follow up to a ticket on the windscreen. ANPR NTKs
       generally have an entry and exit image, a single image like that
       suggests a foot patrol. If so the 2 minutes may be an
       observation rather than parking duration.
       The latest joint code does allow zero length consideration
       periods in specific situations like no stopping zones, although
       it would be interesting to see how a PPC argues a valid contract
       was formed regardless of the CoP.
       #Post#: 105139--------------------------------------------------
       Re: £100 fine for 2 min stop 
   DIR By: gingerstu
       Date: January 8, 2026, 5:00 pm
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       This wasn;t a ticket on the windscreen, it was a genuine 2
       minute stop before moving on.  no ticket person in sight.  the
       area isn't specified as a no stopping zone.  For anyone outside
       of the area, the land looks to be part of the train station
       facilities
       #Post#: 105153--------------------------------------------------
       Re: £100 fine for 2 min stop 
   DIR By: DWMB2
       Date: January 9, 2026, 2:15 am
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       --- Quote from: ixxy link ---
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       > If so the 2 minutes may be an observation rather than parking
       duration.
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       I don't think that would change the argument - on the face of it
       an observation period of 2 minutes is not long enough to
       ascertain or demonstrate that the vehicle was parked for long
       enough for a contract to be formed.
       Although if I were a betting man I'd wager the image on the PCN
       comes from CCTV footage, NPM often use CCTV to enforce.
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