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#Post#: 105088--------------------------------------------------
Havering PCN, 52M: Failing to comply with a prohibition on
certain types of vehicle, South St RM1 / Eastern Rd RM1
DIR By: Dholi93
Date: January 8, 2026, 9:03 am
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Just got back from being away during the holidays to find this
lovely late xmas present in the post.
<a href="
HTML https://ibb.co/zHj2McPC"><img<br
/>src="
HTML https://i.ibb.co/R4Z6FnQt/PCN-Havering.jpg"
alt="PCN
Havering" border="0"></a>
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I'm a little bit short on time with the response as I only just
opened the letter today, but doing a quick search on this forum
revealed there was an identical contravention on the same street
just over a year ago that went to appeal and was overturned.
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<a href="
HTML https://ibb.co/zT3XxZLf"><img<br
/>src="
HTML https://i.ibb.co/pBHfwdsX/Media.jpg"
alt="Media"
border="0"></a>
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Video shows little more that can be seen in this picture, a
vehicle being driven down this road with no clear signage
indicating that it shouldn't be there.
Location:
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/2gti94Upp7ymq8Bz9
The other post I'm referencing is
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/havering-council-no-evidence-of-pcn-contravention-shown-in-video-footage/
Wondering if there's anything in particular that makes my case
different to that one and I'm actually just in the wrong here
and need to pay up.
Appreciate any advice on this.
#Post#: 105089--------------------------------------------------
Re: Havering PCN, 52M: Failing to comply with a prohibition on
certain types of vehicle, South St RM1 / Eastern Rd RM1
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: January 8, 2026, 9:18 am
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I have one too. Do not pay. Back later with a draft.
#Post#: 105164--------------------------------------------------
Re: Havering PCN, 52M: Failing to comply with a prohibition on
certain types of vehicle, South St RM1 / Eastern Rd RM1
DIR By: Jamezz65
Date: January 9, 2026, 3:58 am
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Served way out of time
Contravention 08/11/2025 Day 1
Date of Notice 18/12/2025
Date Served 22/12/2025 Day 45
#Post#: 105173--------------------------------------------------
Re: Havering PCN, 52M: Failing to comply with a prohibition on
certain types of vehicle, South St RM1 / Eastern Rd RM1
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: January 9, 2026, 4:53 am
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--- Quote from: Jamezz65 link ---
>
> Served way out of time
>
> Contravention 08/11/2025 Day 1
> Date of Notice 18/12/2025
> Date Served 22/12/2025 Day 45
>
--- End Quote ---
So it seems, but is the car leased or hired ?
#Post#: 105278--------------------------------------------------
Re: Havering PCN, 52M: Failing to comply with a prohibition on
certain types of vehicle, South St RM1 / Eastern Rd RM1
DIR By: Dholi93
Date: January 9, 2026, 2:46 pm
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Car is leased
#Post#: 105285--------------------------------------------------
Re: Havering PCN, 52M: Failing to comply with a prohibition on
certain types of vehicle, South St RM1 / Eastern Rd RM1
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: January 9, 2026, 5:56 pm
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--- Quote from: Dholi93 link ---
>
> Car is leased
>
--- End Quote ---
So I assume from this is that you do not hold the V5C
Registration Certificate. If this is the case, the first postal
PCN would have been sent to the lease company, who would seem to
have submitted representations that they were a lease company,
and provided your name and address as the lessee on the
contravention date. The PCN is therefore likely to have been
served with the 28 days allowed from the date the first PCN was
cancelled by the council.
So if you want to fight it, I suggest you use the same argument
presented in the case you refer to. This is a well known
location and I think we've seen it on this forum a few time, and
on Pepipoo before that forum closed. The signs are set well back
from the camera: -
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/86YwqwBxtnLyBCJt5
and of course are ambiguous because of the sub-sign "Except for
Access"
I see from the London Tribunals case that Hippocrates
represented the appellant, so hopefully he'll post soon.
#Post#: 105319--------------------------------------------------
Re: Havering PCN, 52M: Failing to comply with a prohibition on
certain types of vehicle, South St RM1 / Eastern Rd RM1
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: January 10, 2026, 10:45 am
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Before you do anything please screenshot their website.
1. The PCN does not particularise which vehicles.
2. Similarly, neither do the images nor the video provided.
3. The PCN is invalid as it is missing mandatory information as
provided at Para. 4 (8 ) (v) of
HTML https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukla/2003/3/section/4/enacted
· (v)that, if the penalty charge is not paid before the end of
the 28 day period, an increased charge may be payable.
Clearly, this refers to Para. 4 (8 ) (iii):
· (iii)that the penalty charge must be paid before the end of
the period of 28 days beginning with the date of the notice;
4. The PCN contains one invalid ground re the Traffic Order
being invalid.
5. Your website contains 3 invalid grounds.
In light of the above, please cancel the PCN.
#Post#: 105450--------------------------------------------------
Re: Havering PCN, 52M: Failing to comply with a prohibition on
certain types of vehicle, South St RM1 / Eastern Rd RM1
DIR By: Dholi93
Date: January 11, 2026, 3:26 pm
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--- Quote from: Hippocrates link ---
>
> Before you do anything please screenshot their website.
>
> 1. The PCN does not particularise which vehicles.
>
> 2. Similarly, neither do the images nor the video provided.
>
> 4. The PCN contains one invalid ground re the Traffic Order
being invalid.
>
> 5. Your website contains 3 invalid grounds.
>
>
--- End Quote ---
Thanks for the advice above, just to be clear, what part of the
website am I screenshotting? The details of the PCN or a
separate area of the Havering website covering details on this
traffic order?
#Post#: 105451--------------------------------------------------
Re: Havering PCN, 52M: Failing to comply with a prohibition on
certain types of vehicle, South St RM1 / Eastern Rd RM1
DIR By: Dholi93
Date: January 11, 2026, 3:33 pm
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If relevant, these are screenshots of options when appealing PCN
online.
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HTML [img]http://<a href="
HTML https://ibb.co/DHK3BXyB"><img<br
/>src="
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/>alt="Screenshot-2026-01-11-at-21-30-45" border="0"></a>[/img]
HTML [img]http://<a href="
HTML https://ibb.co/0RtXn6rg"><img<br
/>src="
HTML https://i.ibb.co/zTJ5mBZy/Screenshot-2026-01-11-at-21-31-02.png"<br
/>alt="Screenshot-2026-01-11-at-21-31-02" border="0"></a>[/img]
HTML [img]http://<a href="
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/>src="
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/>alt="Screenshot-2026-01-11-at-21-30-53" border="0"></a>[/img]
#Post#: 105489--------------------------------------------------
Re: Havering PCN, 52M: Failing to comply with a prohibition on
certain types of vehicle, South St RM1 / Eastern Rd RM1
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: January 12, 2026, 5:52 am
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The page with the list of grounds listed alphabetically.
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