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PCN 32J from Havering Council - Yellow Box Station Road /
Branfill Road RM14
DIR By: welsh91
Date: January 4, 2026, 9:15 am
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Hi Folks. I am looking for some advice regarding a 31J Yellow
box alleged contravention.
I already appealed and I was unsuccessful, I received the Notice
of rejection on 19th December 2025.
Based on research I have done, I argued –
1) That the contravention didn’t occur as there was a bus that
blocked the view of my car so it was impossible to see whether
the exit was clear upon entry.
2) Also, the camera shows that three cars let out the junction
so I wasn’t actually blocking anything.
3) Procedural defects:
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“The traffic order (except where it is an order made under
Schedule 9 of the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984) which is
alleged to have been contravened is invalid.”
This is incorrect, as yellow box (31J) contraventions are
enforced under the Traffic Signs Regulations and General
Directions (TSRGD) and do not rely on any traffic order.
Including this ground is misleading and constitutes procedural
impropriety, as it could confuse motorists about the legislation
under which they are being charged.
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order ground alongside other irrelevant parking-related wording,
which fails to clearly inform motorists of the actual statutory
grounds applicable.
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lists statutory grounds for representations, including:
o
without owner’s consent (parking-type wording)
o
o
o
These online grounds are inaccurate and misleading for
moving-traffic 31J offences. The council’s website lists
statutory grounds for representations that include
parking-related or other irrelevant grounds which do not apply
to moving traffic contraventions such as a 31J yellow box
offence. This creates confusion for motorists and fails to
clearly convey the actual statutory grounds under which a
representation can be made, constituting procedural impropriety.
Including irrelevant grounds on the PCN, in the representation
form, and on the council website creates confusion and
uncertainty, further demonstrating procedural impropriety.
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impropriety as a statutory ground in the PCN wording itself, as
required under Schedule 1 of the London Local Authorities and
Transport for London Act 2003. This omission compounds the
procedural defects.
Unfortunately they rejected my appeal. Do I have a case? Please
see the link below showing my PCN Letter and Notice of
rejection. Please see the following video link
HTML https://parking.havering.gov.uk/pages/OnlineReferenceEntry.aspx?loadtype=NOTICEREVIEW
PCN Number: HG62554052
Reg: LX16 DDF
PCN Notices
HTML https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ILfn99xJFrctSanSKr3Knkql8qMe__zi?usp=sharing
Any help or guidance on my next appeal would be greatly
appreciated.
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Re: PCN 32J from Havering Council - Yellow Box Station Road /
Branfill Road RM14
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: January 4, 2026, 10:26 am
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The contravention is not in dispute so only the paperwork could
save you - our member Hippo is up to speed on this
As Havering do not offer the discount on rejection you may as
well appeal it whatever.
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Re: PCN 32J from Havering Council - Yellow Box Station Road /
Branfill Road RM14
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: January 4, 2026, 11:36 am
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Prod me. I will do a draft later having won a case recently v
them.
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Re: PCN 32J from Havering Council - Yellow Box Station Road /
Branfill Road RM14
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: January 4, 2026, 12:10 pm
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Looking at the contravention again it does seem rather unfair -
the crucial factor is could you have reasonably stopped at the
edge of the box, and I think you could given the lights were
changing on your approach.
But it is very bad practice to put a crossing just beyond the
box, and if the light had stayed green longer and then changed a
bit later you have expectation the car ahead was proceeding
through a green light.
Redbridge has recently scrapped two boxes where there was
similar juxtaposition I think that caused confusion.
I'll have a look at the register.
#Post#: 104702--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN 32J from Havering Council - Yellow Box Station Road /
Branfill Road RM14
DIR By: welsh91
Date: January 5, 2026, 7:17 pm
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Thank you both for your help. Really appreciate it.
#Post#: 104721--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN 32J from Havering Council - Yellow Box Station Road /
Branfill Road RM14
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: January 6, 2026, 5:29 am
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I'll PM you my details as it is very clearly Tribunal time.
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Re: PCN 32J from Havering Council - Yellow Box Station Road /
Branfill Road RM14
DIR By: welsh91
Date: January 6, 2026, 11:41 am
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Thank you.
#Post#: 110630--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN 32J from Havering Council - Yellow Box Station Road /
Branfill Road RM14
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: February 21, 2026, 6:12 pm
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Won. Goodbye to the Key Case below as this adjudicator
rationally listened and decided.
HTML https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/environment-traffic/key-cases/anisha-moosafeer-v-london-borough-havering
Good job I wasn't mentioned. Who cares at my age. What a
fandango this system is.
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Re: PCN 32J from Havering Council - Yellow Box Station Road /
Branfill Road RM14
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: February 21, 2026, 6:57 pm
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--- Quote from: Hippocrates link ---
>
> Won. Goodbye to the Key Case below as this adjudicator
rationally listened and decided.
>
>
HTML https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/environment-traffic/key-cases/anisha-moosafeer-v-london-borough-havering
>
> Good job I wasn't mentioned. Who cares at my age. What a
fandango this system is.
>
--- End Quote ---
Case Number ?
#Post#: 110668--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN 32J from Havering Council - Yellow Box Station Road /
Branfill Road RM14
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: February 22, 2026, 6:56 am
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