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UKPC Kingsley Village, Fraddon. Not parked within the markings
of bay or space.
By: CAPRICE63 Date: January 4, 2026, 6:44 am
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Happy New Year.
I'd be grateful for any advice on the following please. I have
14 days from 24/12/25 to appeal.
I am the registered keeper and I received the Parking Charge
Notice on 2 Jan 2025.
On 21 Dec 2025 the driver visited the M&S store in Kingsley
Village, Fraddon, TR9 6NA.
It was a busy shopping day - the last Sunday before Xmas. It
was raining, and cars were backed up on the surrounding roads.
The sign on entry to the car park (image carparkentry_point,
close_up_entry) states '3 Hours Maximum Stay' and is difficult
to read from the position of the driver of the vehicle as the
sign is on the left. From the position of the driver and at the
distance on entry, whilst driving, the only legible words are '3
Hours Maximum Stay'.
The driver parked the car on the perimeter of the car park in a
space between several other cars parked along the same
perimeter.
There are no road markings on the road at the place where the
car was parked. There are no double yellow lines to indicate
'no parking'.
There is no sign at the parking place but there is one further
down which is not easily visible owing to its height (over 8ft.)
and the very small print.
As it was raining at the time the driver rushed into the store
for cover and was unable to notice any other signage that may
have been displayed around the car park.
The images of the signs around the car park were taken some days
later on 3rd Jan 2026. They seem a little confusing because
there are signs that say; 'Please be advised the parking time
limit is 3 hours - Kingsley Village', 'Please be advised the car
park gates are locked at 10pm and re-opened at 6am - Kingsley
Village - We are unable to gain access to these premises between
10pm and 6am', 'this property is managed by Savilles', 'This car
park is on private land and parking control is managed by UK
Parking Control Ltd.'
The keeper of the car contacted
retailcustomer.services@marks-and-spencer.com saying ".... I
trust you will contact UKPC to ensure they cancel the incorrect
parking charge".
The reply from M&S was "Kindly contact the Euro car park: 020
7563 3000 as they deal with the packing charge".
The keeper of the car also visited the M&S store and spoke to a
member of the management team who gave her name as Jasmine
McMorram (although her name badge was ABBIE). She said she
would contact UKPC to see what she could do but could not make
any promises.
There seems to be much confusion with signs that refer to UKPC,
Kingsley Village and Savilles and M&S staff referring to Euro
Car Park.
Photos show; the approach to the car park, the various signs,
the view from the parking spot, one showing no road markings at
the parking spot, cars parked around the perimeter, road
markings at other parts of the car park.
There are also photos of the Parking Charge and the photos
(UKPC_Photo01 - UKPC_Photo04) taken by someone that, I assume,
works for UKPC. There is also a photo showing the height of the
notice that is included in the photos of the Parking Charge.
Album:
HTML https://photos.app.goo.gl/Kxrd5pukUzjix9UK6
photos
HTML https://photos.app.goo.gl/Kxrd5pukUzjix9UK6
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
#Post#: 104490--------------------------------------------------
Re: UKPC Kingsley Village, Fraddon. Not parked within the marki
ngs of bay or space.
By: jfollows Date: January 4, 2026, 7:22 am
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So the “period of parking” as required by the legislation to
transfer the liability from the driver to the registered keeper
is ?
HTML https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2012/9/schedule/4
[quote] (1)A notice which is to be relied on as a notice to
keeper for the purposes of paragraph 6(1)(b) is given in
accordance with this paragraph if the following requirements are
met.
(2)The notice must—
(a)specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked
and the period of parking to which the notice relates;[/quote]
#Post#: 104513--------------------------------------------------
Re: UKPC Kingsley Village, Fraddon. Not parked within the marki
ngs of bay or space.
By: CAPRICE63 Date: January 4, 2026, 9:19 am
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Thanks for the reply [member=636]jfollows[/member].
From the legislation it appears that the letter from UKPC is a
fine for not parking in a marked bay.
Therefore, I assume I can ignore the letter or do I need to
appeal on the basis that it is not a parking charge?
Thanks
#Post#: 104531--------------------------------------------------
Re: UKPC Kingsley Village, Fraddon. Not parked within the marki
ngs of bay or space.
By: Dave65 Date: January 4, 2026, 10:53 am
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The signage does show that there is no roadway parking and to
park in a marked bay.
However, with UKPC and Ecp as advised by b789 you would not be
paying anything to these two.
#Post#: 104536--------------------------------------------------
Re: UKPC Kingsley Village, Fraddon. Not parked within the marki
ngs of bay or space.
By: CAPRICE63 Date: January 4, 2026, 11:32 am
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Thanks for your reply [member=1555]Dave65[/member].
I thought I'd searched most of this site but your answer helped
me search deeper.
Now, as I see it, as per b789 quote
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/ukcps-ntk-for-not-parked-correctly-within-the-markings-of-the-bay-or-space/msg101023/#msg101023<br
/>I will reply to UKPC with:
[quote]I am the keeper of the vehicle and I dispute your
'parking charge'. I deny any liability or contractual agreement
and I will be making a complaint about your predatory conduct to
your client landowner.
As your Notice to Keeper (NtK) does not fully comply with ALL
the requirements of PoFA 2012, you are unable to hold the keeper
of the vehicle liable for the charge. Partial or even
substantial compliance is not sufficient. There will be no
admission as to who was driving and no inference or assumptions
can be drawn. UKPC has relied on contract law allegations of
breach against the driver only.
The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have
been the driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation
of the law of agency. Your NtK can only hold the driver liable.
UKPC have no hope at POPLA, so you are urged to save us both a
complete waste of time and cancel the PCN.[/quote]
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Re: UKPC Kingsley Village, Fraddon. Not parked within the marki
ngs of bay or space.
By: jfollows Date: January 4, 2026, 11:59 am
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Yes, and it’s not a “fine”.
#Post#: 104556--------------------------------------------------
Re: UKPC Kingsley Village, Fraddon. Not parked within the marki
ngs of bay or space.
By: CAPRICE63 Date: January 4, 2026, 2:20 pm
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Much appreciated. Thank you for your time.
#Post#: 105968--------------------------------------------------
Re: UKPC Kingsley Village, Fraddon. Not parked within the marki
ngs of bay or space.
By: CAPRICE63 Date: January 15, 2026, 3:13 am
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Latest update. I am now at the same stage as mentioned in this
post and I've replied in the same way.
Letter asking for driver details
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/ukcps-ntk-for-not-parked-correctly-within-the-markings-of-the-bay-or-space/msg102544/#msg102544
Let's see what happens next.
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