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#Post#: 10180--------------------------------------------------
EPPING FOREST - PARKED without displaying a ticket - Loughton
DIR By: guest548
Date: November 14, 2023, 11:41 am
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The driver had parked in a council Loughton car park at EPPING
FOREST. The parking was free for 2 hours on Sunday, but a
ticket was required which the driver had bought. However
unfortunately the ticket had fallen down and was not visible on
the dashboard. Given the parking was actually free, and the
ticket was also bought (and also restrictions actually start
from 8 AM so the ticket is not liable to be given before 10 AM),
this is a bit bizzare. Can't believe the resources of our
country are being wasted like this. I am going to appeal this,
but would appreciate any help and advice from experts here. It
is £25 to pay and not bother with the hassle of appealing, but
then it feels very unfair to let this stupidity continue.
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Front of the ticket<br>
HTML https://i.imgur.com/nzQwBDP.png
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Back of the ticket<br>
HTML https://i.imgur.com/JhdiI0r.jpg
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Parking Board<br>
HTML https://i.imgur.com/KIq9V3u.jpg
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Free Ticket<br>
HTML https://i.imgur.com/LGagb5q.jpg
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Google Maps Link <br>
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/bqoPq67g3QfXmpAf8
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/bqoPq67g3QfXmpAf8
#Post#: 10181--------------------------------------------------
Re: EPPING FOREST - PARKED without displaying a ticket -
Loughton
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: November 14, 2023, 11:48 am
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It's a money game, pure and simple. Why don't they issue the PCN
for failing to pay; one could then show payment was made. The
contravention is now nonsensical considering the use of
pay-by-phone apps nowadays.
#Post#: 10218--------------------------------------------------
Re: EPPING FOREST - PARKED without displaying a ticket -
Loughton
DIR By: guest548
Date: November 14, 2023, 3:23 pm
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There was no payment made, because it wasnt required (parking
was free !!). Agree this is a bit non-sensical. Also machine
was switched off when the driver tried to take a free ticket.
Only after several attempts did the machine actually start
working..
#Post#: 10356--------------------------------------------------
Re: EPPING FOREST - PARKED without displaying a ticket -
Loughton
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: November 15, 2023, 5:37 pm
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--- Quote from: flash2004 link ---
>
> The driver had parked in a council Loughton car park at EPPING
FOREST.
>
--- End Quote ---
This is a council case, so all the guidelines for private
parking tickets is inapplicable and irrelevant. firstly there is
no benefit in hiding the driver's identity, so either tell us
that you're the driver or tell us what your connection to the
driver is.
Secondly, please give us the PCN number and number plate.
The PCN has some flaws in the small print but to be honest
there's a fair chance the council might just cancel this.
The relevant order is The Epping Forest District Council
(Off-Street Parking Places) Order 2022
HTML https://www.eppingforestdc.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/EFDC-Off-Street-Order-2022-V3.pdf.
#Post#: 10549--------------------------------------------------
Re: EPPING FOREST - PARKED without displaying a ticket -
Loughton
DIR By: guest548
Date: November 18, 2023, 3:29 pm
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--- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
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> [quote author=flash2004 link=topic=933.msg10180#msg10180
date=1699983713]
> The driver had parked in a council Loughton car park at EPPING
FOREST.
>
--- End Quote ---
This is a council case, so all the guidelines for private
parking tickets is inapplicable and irrelevant. firstly there is
no benefit in hiding the driver's identity, so either tell us
that you're the driver or tell us what your connection to the
driver is.
Secondly, please give us the PCN number and number plate.
The PCN has some flaws in the small print but to be honest
there's a fair chance the council might just cancel this.
The relevant order is The Epping Forest District Council
(Off-Street Parking Places) Order 2022
HTML https://www.eppingforestdc.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/EFDC-Off-Street-Order-2022-V3.pdf.
[/quote]
The driver was my wife. PCN number is FT10504214, and
Registration is YU02SEF. How should I appeal this ?
#Post#: 10655--------------------------------------------------
Re: EPPING FOREST - PARKED without displaying a ticket -
Loughton
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: November 19, 2023, 4:31 pm
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For an informal representation I'd suggest the softly softly
approach:
[indent]
Dear Epping Forest District Council,
On this occasion a ticket had been obtained but had
unfortunately fallen down from the dashboard, I am attach a scan
of the ticket to this representation. I apologise for this
oversight and will be a lot more careful in future, but on this
occasion would ask you to excercise your discretion to cancel
the penalty charge.
Yours faithfully,
[/indent]
Send the representation via the website at
HTML https://parking.eppingforestdc.gov.uk/Pages/OnlineReferenceEntry.aspx?loadtype=INFORMAL<br
/>and keep a screenshot of the confirmation screen.
#Post#: 10690--------------------------------------------------
Re: EPPING FOREST - PARKED without displaying a ticket -
Loughton
DIR By: flash2005
Date: November 20, 2023, 4:56 am
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--- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
>
> For an informal representation I'd suggest the softly softly
approach:
>
> [indent]
> Dear Epping Forest District Council,
>
> On this occasion a ticket had been obtained but had
unfortunately fallen down from the dashboard, I am attach a scan
of the ticket to this representation. I apologise for this
oversight and will be a lot more careful in future, but on this
occasion would ask you to excercise your discretion to cancel
the penalty charge.
>
> Yours faithfully,
> [/indent]
>
> Send the representation via the website at
HTML https://parking.eppingforestdc.gov.uk/Pages/OnlineReferenceEntry.aspx?loadtype=INFORMAL<br
/>and keep a screenshot of the confirmation screen.
>
--- End Quote ---
Many thanks, I have done the informal representation.
#Post#: 10793--------------------------------------------------
Re: EPPING FOREST - PARKED without displaying a ticket -
Loughton
DIR By: flash2005
Date: November 21, 2023, 3:15 am
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They have cancelled the ticket as a gesture of goodwill today.
Many thanks for the advice.
#Post#: 10807--------------------------------------------------
Re: EPPING FOREST - PARKED without displaying a ticket -
Loughton
DIR By: mickR
Date: November 21, 2023, 5:21 am
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blimey, good result !
#Post#: 10812--------------------------------------------------
Re: EPPING FOREST - PARKED without displaying a ticket -
Loughton
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: November 21, 2023, 6:14 am
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--- Quote from: mickR link ---
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> blimey, good result !
>
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A very good result, well done !
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