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       Re: Enfield 52M (widthe restriction), Firs Park Av. N21 ANPR
   DIR By: mrmustard
       Date: November 19, 2023, 4:34 pm
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       Too late today but I think the restriction may not be at the
       correct place. More tomorrow.
       #Post#: 10686--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Enfield 52M (width restriction), Firs Park Av. N21 ANPR
   DIR By: mrmustard
       Date: November 20, 2023, 4:28 am
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       I checked the outcome of the previous case. The council rejected
       the formal representations but once we reached the tribunal they
       threw in the towel. I'm happy to handle the whole thing Felics,
       email me at mrmustard@zoho.com
       Grounds of Apepal to tribunal
       1
       The Gazette advertisement, a pre-requisite to making an Order,
       is that it relates to Firs Park Road, N13.
       The PCN is invalid for that reason alone. The address at which
       the signs have been installed are within a different postcode,
       being N21.
       2
       The made traffic order, signed on 14 April 2021, authorises, and
       indeed requires, signs to be erected at the common boundary of
       15 and 17 Firs Park Avenue.
       There are no signs at that location. They are at the common
       boundary of 13 and 15.
       In addition the length of road over which passage is prohibited
       is 2m and so the no motor vehicles signs should not be mounted
       back to back but 2m apart.
       #Post#: 10724--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Enfield 52M (width restriction), Firs Park Av. N21 ANPR
   DIR By: Felics
       Date: November 20, 2023, 10:28 am
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       --- Quote from: mrmustard link ---
       >
       > I checked the outcome of the previous case. The council
       rejected the formal representations but once we reached the
       tribunal they threw in the towel. I'm happy to handle the whole
       thing Felics, email me at mrmustard@zoho.com
       >
       > Grounds of Apepal to tribunal
       >
       > 1
       >
       > The Gazette advertisement, a pre-requisite to making an Order,
       is that it relates to Firs Park Road, N13.
       >
       > The PCN is invalid for that reason alone. The address at which
       the signs have been installed are within a different postcode,
       being N21.
       >
       > 2
       >
       > The made traffic order, signed on 14 April 2021, authorises,
       and indeed requires, signs to be erected at the common boundary
       of 15 and 17 Firs Park Avenue.
       >
       > There are no signs at that location. They are at the common
       boundary of 13 and 15.
       >
       > In addition the length of road over which passage is
       prohibited is 2m and so the no motor vehicles signs should not
       be mounted back to back but 2m apart.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Thank you Mr Mustard. I have sent through an email (y)
       #Post#: 12648--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Enfield 52M (widthe restriction), Firs Park Av. N21 ANPR
   DIR By: Felics
       Date: December 18, 2023, 12:43 pm
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       For the  benefit of the thread (and future cases), this is the
       response I received from Enfield Borough today.
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       Mr Mustard, I have emailed you a copy seperately.
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       Re: Enfield 52M (widthe restriction), Firs Park Av. N21 ANPR
   DIR By: mrmustard
       Date: December 18, 2023, 12:48 pm
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       The Notice of Rejection is notable for a complete failure to
       mention either of the two representations which were made.
       That alone may be enough for a win at the tribunal.
       #Post#: 38386--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Enfield 52M (widthe restriction), Firs Park Av. N21 ANPR
   DIR By: driver001
       Date: September 26, 2024, 5:57 am
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       This isn't legal advice but I just wanted to add that I drove
       through this (correctly, luckily) last night and it isn't
       impossible to miss the signs. I almost missed it and actually
       had to stop and back the car up just to check. London nowadays
       is just a game set up to make you lose occasionally for being
       human. You're either perfect with eagle-eyed robotic vision
       scanning multiple targets at once, or you're human and lose the
       game once in a while and pay some taxes to the local
       governments, who in turn need the money to fund the livelihoods
       of the many severely imperfect human beings working for them.
       How dare you be an imperfect civilian human in this day and age.
       That's why AI will takeover. RIP humanity.
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