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Re: Lambeth, Code 52 - no motor vehicles, Kennington Oval
DIR By: timewilltell
Date: January 5, 2026, 8:31 am
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> Exactly which is why we win on their website. It gets worse
further down the line actually. Prod me for a draft
>
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Good to hear, thank you. A draft would be amazing :)
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Re: Lambeth, Code 52 - no motor vehicles, Kennington Oval
DIR By: timewilltell
Date: January 11, 2026, 11:24 am
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> [quote author=Hippocrates link=topic=9304.msg104618#msg104618
date=1767619286]
> Exactly which is why we win on their website. It gets worse
further down the line actually. Prod me for a draft
>
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Good to hear, thank you. A draft would be amazing :)
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Hello [member=24]Hippocrates[/member], just giving you a gentle
prod for a draft as you suggested. Many thanks
#Post#: 105431--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lambeth, Code 52 - no motor vehicles, Kennington Oval
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: January 11, 2026, 12:20 pm
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HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/lambeth-code-53j-failing-to-comply-with-a-restriction-on-vehicles-entering-a-p/msg105113/#msg105113
Point 2.
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Re: Lambeth, Code 52 - no motor vehicles, Kennington Oval
DIR By: timewilltell
Date: January 11, 2026, 12:38 pm
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HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/lambeth-code-53j-failing-to-comply-with-a-restriction-on-vehicles-entering-a-p/msg105113/#msg105113
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> Point 2.
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Thanks [member=24]Hippocrates[/member]
Do I select "I wish to make representations about this PCN for
other reasons"?
Here's my draft:
"I make this formal representation against the PCN:
A motorist must be given wholly correct information when to pay
the reduced or full amounts sought. However, there is a clear
disconnect between the law and what is stated on your website.
In light of the above, please cancel the PCN."
#Post#: 105440--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lambeth, Code 52 - no motor vehicles, Kennington Oval
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: January 11, 2026, 12:58 pm
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Yes. Have you any points re the actual contravention signage?
#Post#: 105444--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lambeth, Code 52 - no motor vehicles, Kennington Oval
DIR By: timewilltell
Date: January 11, 2026, 1:13 pm
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> Yes. Have you any points re the actual contravention signage?
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No, I haven't
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Re: Lambeth, Code 52 - no motor vehicles, Kennington Oval
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: January 11, 2026, 5:01 pm
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--- Quote from: Hippocrates link ---
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> Yes. Have you any points re the actual contravention signage?
>
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When I looked at this thread in late December, I got the route
wrong. Then when the OP confirmed his route, it became clear
that there was an advance sign and the restriction signs, so
they looked "adequate", see here: -
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/72UKGDT54JQU2xFZ8
I suppose one could argue about the adequacy of just putting up
a Left Turn arrow; better to have a larger sign with the layout
ahead indicating where to go.
#Post#: 105527--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lambeth, Code 52 - no motor vehicles, Kennington Oval
DIR By: timewilltell
Date: January 12, 2026, 9:21 am
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> [quote author=Hippocrates link=topic=9304.msg105440#msg105440
date=1768157920]
> Yes. Have you any points re the actual contravention signage?
>
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When I looked at this thread in late December, I got the route
wrong. Then when the OP confirmed his route, it became clear
that there was an advance sign and the restriction signs, so
they looked "adequate", see here: -
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/72UKGDT54JQU2xFZ8
I suppose one could argue about the adequacy of just putting up
a Left Turn arrow; better to have a larger sign with the layout
ahead indicating where to go.
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Thanks [member=12]Incandescent[/member]. Any suggestions from
you or [member=24]Hippocrates[/member] on how best to word this
for the representation please? Or anything else that I can add.
Thanks
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Re: Lambeth, Code 52 - no motor vehicles, Kennington Oval
DIR By: timewilltell
Date: March 3, 2026, 5:45 am
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Thanks to [member=24]Hippocrates[/member], I challenged the PCN
as follows:
--- Quote ---
> "I make this formal representation against the PCN:
>
> There was no contravention because a motorist must be given
wholly correct information when to pay the reduced or full
amounts sought. However, there is a clear disconnect between the
law and what is stated on your website.
>
> In light of the above, please cancel the PCN."
--- End Quote ---
However, it's been refused and today (3 March 2026) I've
received this from Lambeth:
HTML https://ibb.co/album/0ywr86
What are your thoughts on appealing this?
#Post#: 111875--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lambeth, Code 52 - no motor vehicles, Kennington Oval
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: March 3, 2026, 6:06 am
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I know I use The Invisible Man image as a logo but even I cannot
see their NOR. ;D
I hazard a guess that they have not even considered the point?
"We have carefully considered...." "Yours sincerely, Barbour
Logic" ?
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