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Orsett road - Thurrock Council PCN
DIR By: shxvaal
Date: December 28, 2025, 7:59 am
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Thurrock Council PCN issued while I was unloading bulky items
(mirrors and business equipment) for a new business opening in
the mall right infront of me. Unloading was continuous and
required multiple trips. I'm a 5'3 59kg female so takes a bit of
time to unload large mirrors into a mall and return
Parking attendant says he observed for approx 9 minutes. I
returned to the vehicle before the PCN was actually served. I
have a photo showing him standing next to my vehicle with no PCN
on the windscreen. The PCN was printed and then placed on there
while I was present.
The PCN was left on the vehicle during heavy rain and is now
largely illegible, including the PCN date and full contravention
details.
At this stage I am asking:
• does returning before service strengthen the loading defence?
• is a 9 minute observation sufficient to rebut loading?
• how best to deploy the illegible PCN point?
I will upload redacted photos and the PCN once advised.
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- this is the location,
i was parked right infront of the loading sign
Thank you.
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Re: Orsett road - Thurrock Council PCN
DIR By: shxvaal
Date: December 28, 2025, 8:11 am
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Re: Orsett road - Thurrock Council PCN
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: December 28, 2025, 11:13 am
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Are you the owner of the van, and hold the V5C Registration
Certificate, which is up-to-date ?
Your questions
• does returning before service strengthen the loading defence?
Assuming you told the CEO what you were doing, yes, as he
should have added it to his notes
• is a 9 minute observation sufficient to rebut loading?
No. Loading is loading and includes every activity linked to
that loading, but you will have to explain why you
were away from the vehicle for 9 minutes. If they try to tell
you loading is only what is done at the roadside,
then b3 aware that this is complete tosh
• how best to deploy the illegible PCN point?
Probably not a winner, as it would have been readable when the
CEO printed it off. If you were at the car before it
was served, how come it got wet ?
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Re: Orsett road - Thurrock Council PCN
DIR By: shxvaal
Date: December 28, 2025, 11:19 am
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Yes i told him and he said i should appeal.
I got annoyed and left it on the car whilst finishing up my
unloading, a bit silly as it started to rain right after
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Re: Orsett road - Thurrock Council PCN
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: December 28, 2025, 12:46 pm
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--- Quote from: shxvaal link ---
>
> Yes i told him and he said i should appeal.
> I got annoyed and left it on the car whilst finishing up my
unloading, a bit silly as it started to rain right after
>
--- End Quote ---
So your point about the PCN getting wet is entirely up to you.
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