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Late NIP
By: Genu Date: December 25, 2025, 1:11 am
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I was driving my daughter’s car on 29 October. Speed camera got
me doing 35mph in a 30 zone. She received the NIP dated 24
November, which she replied and now I have got one. Also replied
confirming I was the driver. She has been the registered keeper
since 2018; not a recent purchase or a hire car etc.
Question is this. The original NIP is dated more than 3 weeks
after the event, so there is no way it could have been received
within 14 days. Is that a valid defence?
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Re: Late NIP
By: JustLoveCars Date: December 25, 2025, 4:41 am
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If the 'original' NIP is dated 3 weeks after the offence then
the chances are this is not the NIP. It could be a 'reminder'
and are not always marked as such.
If they did send the NIP after 3 weeks and there's no statutory
exception then, yes, it's a defence.
In the first instance get the V5C out and check all the details
are 100% correct. Particularly check the docref date (in DD MM
YY format) at the bottom of page 2 - this is date the V5C was
last issued.
If all checks out then in the first instance I would contact the
issuing unit and see what they say. The most likely explanation
is the NIP was 'lost in the post'. Unfortunately, they rely on
a presumption of delivery that would be your job to rebut -
which can be quite difficult in practice.
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Re: Late NIP
By: Genu Date: December 25, 2025, 5:17 am
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Thank you for your response JustLoveCars. The Doc Ref date is 03
08 18, so been the same for over 7 years. The address is the
same - it’s our address.
I didn’t realise a reminder may not be labelled as such, so will
try to find out if an earlier NIP had been issued. Thanks
#Post#: 103805--------------------------------------------------
Re: Late NIP
By: The Slithy Tove Date: December 26, 2025, 3:52 am
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I would not have thought they would send out a reminder so soon.
After all, they have 14 days to get the first NIP out and then
there's another 28 days before the response is required. Getting
a reminder less than 4 weeks after the event would seem a little
premature.
At least all the responses have been submitted in a timely
manner, so those obligations have been met. If eligible, you are
likely to be offered a speed awareness course. The question then
is, do you want the path of least resistance (the course,
especially as you don't seem to deny speeding), or contest the
timeliness of the NIP, which will be hassle and could end up
being expensive?
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Re: Late NIP
By: JustLoveCars Date: December 26, 2025, 5:22 am
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[quote author=The Slithy Tove
link=topic=9276.msg103805#msg103805 date=1766742756]
I would not have thought they would send out a reminder so soon.
[/quote]It's dated 26 days after the offence (Almost 4 weeks) -
may be, may be not a 'reminder'...
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Re: Late NIP
By: Genu Date: December 26, 2025, 9:26 am
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I also did think that it may be a a bit early for a reminder
hence my plan to contact and ask this question - was an earlier
NIP sent?
If I can get an answer to that I will then consider my options.
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