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#Post#: 107665--------------------------------------------------
Re: UKCPS Leeds Station - Notice to Keeper (Postal-PoFA) - no
recollection of stopping
DIR By: Snapp1e
Date: January 28, 2026, 6:13 am
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To IPS
Appeal against PCN from UPCPS - Notice to Keeper (Postal - PoFA)
issued on private land
Reason for issue: no stopping
Name and address of site: Leeds City Station, LS1 4DY
UKCPS sent me a Parking Charge Notice letter dated 17th December
2025 with photos relating to 5th December 2025. They had used
the vehicle registration number and requested the registered
keeper's name and address details from the DVLA.
I am the registered keeper of the vehicle. I have not confirmed
to UKCPS who the driver was at that time on that date.
I submitted an appeal to UKCPS on 27/12/2025 via their website.
Here is a copy of my appeal to UKCPS:
APPEAL TO UKCPS:
I am the registered keeper. UKCPS cannot hold a registered
keeper liable for any alleged contravention on land that is
under statutory control (until 26 December 2025). As a matter of
fact and law, UKCPS will be well aware that they cannot use the
PoFA provisions because Leeds Station is not 'relevant land'.
If Leeds Station wanted to hold owners or keepers liable under
Railway Bylaws, that would be within the landowner's gift and
another matter entirely. However, not only is that not pleaded,
it is also not legally possible because UKCPS is not the station
owner and your 'parking charge' is not and never attempts to be
a penalty. It is created for UKCPS’s own profit (as opposed to a
byelaw's penalty that goes to the public purse) and UKCPS has
relied on contract law allegations of breach against the driver
only.
The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have
been the driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation
of the law of agency. Your Notice to Keeper can only hold the
driver liable. UKCPS have no hope should you try to litigate, so
you are urged to save us both a complete waste of time and
cancel the PCN.
Your photo evidence showed a stop of 5 seconds only where the
vehicle car door remained closed.
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UKCPS replied to me on 20th January 2026 by email saying my
appeal to them was unsuccessful in their opinion.
I request that the IPA looks at the photo evidence to recognise
the following:
1/ The vehicles was stopped for 5 seconds only.
2/ The vehicle was not purposefully stopped or waiting.
3/ The car doors remained closed.
4/ The UKCPS photos show there were no people outside of the
vehicle intending to get in. It is an empty road and pavement.
5/ The first photo shows the engine lights are on. The photo
showing it at 5 seconds after shows the engine lights are off.
It appears plausible that the vehicle stalled the engine and had
to restart the power.
6/ A 5 second stop is not violating any bylaws on private land.
#Post#: 107669--------------------------------------------------
Re: UKCPS Leeds Station - Notice to Keeper (Postal-PoFA) - no
recollection of stopping
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: January 28, 2026, 6:17 am
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Their privacy policy should explain what they do with data
provided, but I've never heard of anyone receiving a phone call
from the IAS.
You do not need to provide a copy of the PCN or anything from
the operator. It is for the operator to prove their case, so it
is for them to provide the PCN.
#Post#: 107670--------------------------------------------------
Re: UKCPS Leeds Station - Notice to Keeper (Postal-PoFA) - no
recollection of stopping
DIR By: jfollows
Date: January 28, 2026, 6:21 am
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Why have you moved away from your appeal point, which is that
it’s irrelevant what the driver did or did not do, you as
registered keeper can not be liable for the driver’s actions?
If you give the IAS all these points about the driver, they’ll
reject the appeal based on them.
#Post#: 107674--------------------------------------------------
Re: UKCPS Leeds Station - Notice to Keeper (Postal-PoFA) - no
recollection of stopping
DIR By: Snapp1e
Date: January 28, 2026, 6:31 am
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oh yes youre right.
I had mentioned them further up in the letter but I will add
them to the bottom as the more important points. Thank you.
#Post#: 107678--------------------------------------------------
Re: UKCPS Leeds Station - Notice to Keeper (Postal-PoFA) - no
recollection of stopping
DIR By: Snapp1e
Date: January 28, 2026, 6:52 am
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Draft 2 Appeal to the IPS -
thanks for earlier comments to help me do a good appeal.
I don't need to include the last bit about the driver's actions,
it just boils my blood, but I could remove those points about
the driver...
To IPS
Appeal against PCN from UPCPS - Notice to Keeper (Postal - PoFA)
issued on private land
Reason for issue: no stopping
Name and address of site: Leeds City Station, LS1 4DY
UKCPS sent me a Parking Charge Notice letter dated 17th December
2025 with photos relating to 5th December 2025. They had used
the vehicle registration number and requested the registered
keeper's name and address details from the DVLA.
I am the registered keeper of the vehicle. I have not confirmed
to UKCPS who the driver was at that time on that date.
I submitted an appeal to UKCPS on 27/12/2025 via their website.
Here is a copy of my appeal to UKCPS:
APPEAL TO UKCPS:
I am the registered keeper. UKCPS cannot hold a registered
keeper liable for any alleged contravention on land that is
under statutory control (until 26 December 2025). As a matter of
fact and law, UKCPS will be well aware that they cannot use the
PoFA provisions because Leeds Station is not 'relevant land'.
If Leeds Station wanted to hold owners or keepers liable under
Railway Bylaws, that would be within the landowner's gift and
another matter entirely. However, not only is that not pleaded,
it is also not legally possible because UKCPS is not the station
owner and your 'parking charge' is not and never attempts to be
a penalty. It is created for UKCPS’s own profit (as opposed to a
byelaw's penalty that goes to the public purse) and UKCPS has
relied on contract law allegations of breach against the driver
only.
The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have
been the driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation
of the law of agency. Your Notice to Keeper can only hold the
driver liable. UKCPS have no hope should you try to litigate, so
you are urged to save us both a complete waste of time and
cancel the PCN.
Your photo evidence showed a stop of 5 seconds only where the
vehicle car door remained closed.
-------------------------
UKCPS replied to me on 20th January 2026 by email saying my
appeal to them was unsuccessful in their opinion.
I request that the IPS considers this appeal based on the
following:
1/ UKCPS cannot hold a registered keeper liable for any alleged
contravention on land that is under statutory control (until 26
December 2025).
2/ As a matter of fact and law, UKCPS cannot use the PoFA
provisions because Leeds Station is not 'relevant land'.
3/ If Leeds Station wanted to hold owners or keepers liable
under Railway Bylaws, that would be within the landowner's gift
and another matter entirely. However, not only is that not
pleaded, it is also not legally possible because UKCPS is not
the station owner and the UKCPS 'parking charge' is not and
never attempts to be a penalty.
4/ The CPN is created for UKCPS’s own profit (as opposed to a
bylaw's penalty that goes to the public purse) and UKCPS has
relied on contract law allegations of breach against the driver
only.
5/ The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have
been the driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation
of the law of agency.
6/ The UKCPS Notice to Keeper can only hold the driver liable.
7/ UKCPS has not been notified of the driver's identity.
Noteworthy to show how ridiculous the UKCPS parameters are:
a) The vehicles was stopped for 5 seconds only as shown in the
UKCPS photo evidence (4 photos).
b) The vehicle was not purposefully stopped or waiting.
c) The car doors remained closed.
d) The UKCPS photos show there were no people outside of the
vehicle intending to get in. It is an empty road and pavement
for the duration of the 5 seconds.
e) The first photo shows the engine lights are on. The photo
showing it at 5 seconds after shows the engine lights are off.
It appears plausible that the vehicle stalled the engine and had
to restart the power.
#Post#: 107683--------------------------------------------------
Re: UKCPS Leeds Station - Notice to Keeper (Postal-PoFA) - no
recollection of stopping
DIR By: jfollows
Date: January 28, 2026, 7:30 am
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As I’ve already said, I would remove all the stuff about the
driver, because otherwise the IAS will latch on to it and use it
against you as a reason for denying your appeal. But take input
from others as well first.
And it’s neither IPS or IPA, it’s the IAS, the supposed - but
not - Independent Appeals Service.
#Post#: 107688--------------------------------------------------
Re: UKCPS Leeds Station - Notice to Keeper (Postal-PoFA) - no
recollection of stopping
DIR By: Snapp1e
Date: January 28, 2026, 7:39 am
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Thank you jfollows.
I will follow your advice. I want to do the best and keep it to
the point.
Thank you for correcting to IPS.
I'm going to send it off now.
I really appreciate your help with this.
#Post#: 107690--------------------------------------------------
Re: UKCPS Leeds Station - Notice to Keeper (Postal-PoFA) - no
recollection of stopping
DIR By: InterCity125
Date: January 28, 2026, 7:46 am
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Also, the vehicle is stopped on double yellow lines which is not
a 'no stopping' restriction.
#Post#: 107698--------------------------------------------------
Re: UKCPS Leeds Station - Notice to Keeper (Postal-PoFA) - no
recollection of stopping
DIR By: Snapp1e
Date: January 28, 2026, 8:17 am
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Thanks Intercity
I have sent in the appeal now. From what I understand, whatever
I write wont stop the charge but it's good to have your point
noted in case it progresses to the SCC.
#Post#: 107701--------------------------------------------------
Re: UKCPS Leeds Station - Notice to Keeper (Postal-PoFA) - no
recollection of stopping
DIR By: Snapp1e
Date: January 28, 2026, 8:38 am
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Here are the screenshots for my confirmation of my appeal
submission to the IAS.
It's the same info I sent in my appeal to the UKCPS.
HTML https://ibb.co/HTdBT07d
= page 1
HTML https://ibb.co/PGYYFTbr
= page 2
Ive read on here that it will cost UKCPS £23 now. :)
I'll come back here when I receive a response.
There will be 2 options for me at that point:
1. to reply to their evidence.
2. refer straight to arbitration.
I assume I will chose option 2 because I have no further
evidence to upload and I have nothing else to say to them,
except for the double yellow lines which I did not mention.
I wonder how many'no stopping' charges are sent out for Leeds
Station on a daily basis?
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I've been reading reports about the Litter Enforcement scams
where pedestrians, and some motorists, are being accosted on the
streets and told to pay an immediate fine. One lady who was
walking her dog was told to show she had poo bags otherwise she
would be fined. It was a short walk, her dog has already done
its business, and she didn't have any bags. A passer-by
intervened and told her the 'officer' had no powers. The scam
reminded me of this parking charge scam (private land and no
jurisdiction) and that the helpfulness of kind and savvy people
really does help people.
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