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PCN Southwark
DIR By: joshua.rowen.press@googlemail.com
Date: December 21, 2025, 5:32 pm
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Hi there,
The signage for the restricted street came on me very suddenly
before I had the opportunity to turn off, are there any valid
ground for challenging this PCN?
Best,
Joshua
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Re: PCN Southwark
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: December 22, 2025, 1:28 am
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Welcome to FTLA.
N.B. I've modified yr opening post to remove PCN image with yr
name & address - see below.
For meaningful advice please have a read of
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/
and post up here
(use
ibb.co
HTML https://imgbb.com/
or
HTML https://imgpile.com/
for posting images.
Wherever possible, use the BBCode.)
all sides of the PCN (only redact yr name & address - leave
everything else in),
any council photos/video,
and
a GSV link to the location.
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Re: PCN Southwark
DIR By: joshua.rowen.press@googlemail.com
Date: December 22, 2025, 4:56 am
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Thank so much John. All info with a redacted address below.
GSV:
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/KgTUevSKpKw7zc9g8
Images:
HTML https://ibb.co/1YG38sJW
HTML https://ibb.co/YTcvZRJJ
HTML https://ibb.co/9k15nTjk
HTML https://ibb.co/8DNdn6HP
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Re: PCN Southwark
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: December 22, 2025, 5:34 am
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A charge certificate CANNOT be sent until 28 days from the date
of service of the PCN.
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Re: PCN Southwark
DIR By: joshua.rowen.press@googlemail.com
Date: December 22, 2025, 6:03 am
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Thank you for your reply, is this ground for appeal? Apologies
if this is something I’ve miss understood.
I was looking to appeal the PCN as it was only possible to see
the signage at the very last minute, even then I could barely
read it.
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Re: PCN Southwark
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: December 22, 2025, 6:27 am
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For convenience:
HTML https://i.ibb.co/bj5xzHR9/5526a53c-5b9e-4a9c-ad61-522deb4f6b4f.jpg
HTML https://ibb.co/1YG38sJW
It is a ground of appeal. Be guided by @Hippocrates , who has
considerable experience in dealing with Southwark. but do not
miss deadlines.
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Re: PCN Southwark
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: December 22, 2025, 7:27 am
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There is an advance sign: -
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/TP8zc4UWm5XwKoWA7
Loking at GSV, I'm sure we're seen this location before but I
can't remember what the outcome was assuming it got to London
Tribunals. A search of their statutory register might turn up
something.
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Re: PCN Southwark
DIR By: joshua.rowen.press@googlemail.com
Date: December 22, 2025, 7:33 am
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Thank you Hippocrates, I will appeal this PCN today on those
grounds. I presume i should keep the wording simple, is there
anything I should reference in particular ?
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Re: PCN Southwark
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: December 22, 2025, 7:53 am
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Post yr draft here first, and wait for @Hippocrates to comment.
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Re: PCN Southwark
DIR By: joshua.rowen.press@googlemail.com
Date: December 22, 2025, 4:23 pm
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I am writing to formally make representations against the above
Penalty Charge Notice.
I dispute that the alleged contravention occurred.
The restriction at Rye Lane junction with Copeland Road is not
adequately signed so as to give a motorist clear and sufficient
advance warning of the prohibition. The signage is easy to miss
in moving traffic, particularly at this busy junction, and does
not allow a driver reasonable opportunity to safely divert
before entering the restricted area.
In addition, the camera enforcement image provided does not
demonstrate that the vehicle passed clear, compliant signage
positioned in accordance with the Traffic Signs Regulations and
General Directions. I put the council to strict proof that all
signage at this location is lawful, correctly positioned, fully
visible, and adequately maintained.
Further, I note that under the London Local Authorities and
Transport for London Act 2003, enforcement must be suspended
while representations are under consideration. Please confirm
that no Charge Certificate has been or will be issued during
this statutory period.
In light of the above, I request that this Penalty Charge Notice
be cancelled. Should the council reject these representations,
please treat this letter as a request for the full CCTV footage,
the Traffic Management Order for this restriction, and
confirmation of signage compliance.
Yours faithfully,
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