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#Post#: 103453--------------------------------------------------
Enfield, Code 33c Using a route restricted to certain vehicles
(Buses & Cycles only)
DIR By: Ozuma
Date: December 21, 2025, 11:06 am
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I am a part time Royal Mail delivery driver, and I deliver only
around N17 (I don’t have duty in N18) but from one delivery
point to the next the satnav’s route was through this road. This
is the first time I’ve passed this road (Bus Gate) and first
time I’ve ever encountered such a restriction. I was going from
the North (Bull Lane) to Queen Street (please view on Street
View)
There’s been talks in other forums of measuring the distance
(not sure how that helps the case but just wanted to mention it)
PCN
HTML https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-9Gjd9CqjDYHSe9baMXKLVmnolpGkRRm
Street View:
HTML https://www.google.com/maps/@51.6089241,-0.0756684,3a,75y,167.15h,78.66t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sXQRd1mE0Z1Ulm9Sr4CGm5A!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D11.33559433565182%26panoid%3DXQRd1mE0Z1Ulm9Sr4CGm5A%26yaw%3D167.14841538559978!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MTIwOS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
Pictures:
HTML https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1GLkf8cmrTEolQQs7BqXYHCtLFbMXwnqY
Video:
HTML https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/13yO4TXnfNMhh0UvTh5DJzZFSypn9V9Ra
Traffic Order:
HTML https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1R0pobmD8DhEOQMN1pWtmQojWHei2_HYh
For pictures you can also use the PCN Number & VRN on the link
below:
HTML https://parkingservices.itsvc.co.uk/enfield/notices/
PCN Number: EF99659963
VRN: KO68OAX
Please let me know if anything else is needed. I appreciate all
the help in this forum
#Post#: 103492--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enfield, Code 33c Using a route restricted to certain
vehicles (Buses & Cycles only)
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: December 21, 2025, 3:39 pm
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You need to make your Google Drive links "public". At the moment
they are 'Private@ so cannot be opened.
#Post#: 103494--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enfield, Code 33c Using a route restricted to certain
vehicles (Buses & Cycles only)
DIR By: Ozuma
Date: December 21, 2025, 3:43 pm
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
>
> You need to make your Google Drive links "public". At the
moment they are 'Private@ so cannot be opened.
>
--- End Quote ---
Sorry about that. I've made it public now
#Post#: 103498--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enfield, Code 33c Using a route restricted to certain
vehicles (Buses & Cycles only)
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: December 21, 2025, 4:13 pm
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--- Quote ---
> from one delivery point to the next the satnav’s route was
through this road.
--- End Quote ---
It's fatal to rely solely on satnav in big cities especially
London. They are never up-to-date. Here there are two clear
signs with no times or days so apply 24x7.
HOwever, the most important point to make is that the PCN is not
addressed to you, but to the Royal Mail.The law on
decriminalised traffice enforcement like this, is that the owner
of the vehicle has responsibility for paying or appealing PCNs,
not the driver. So the question is, how did you receive this PCN
? You need to find out what the conditions of service are
related to traffic and parking PCNs. Such is the law, that you
cannot submit representations unless authorised by Royal Mail.
Of course you can pay it !!
So, you need to get info from Royal Mail on what their
arrangements are for PCN appeals and payments. Post here when
you know.
#Post#: 103499--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enfield, Code 33c Using a route restricted to certain
vehicles (Buses & Cycles only)
DIR By: Ozuma
Date: December 21, 2025, 4:20 pm
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
>
> [quote]from one delivery point to the next the satnav’s
route was through this road.
--- End Quote ---
It's fatal to rely solely on satnav in big cities especially
London. They are never up-to-date. Here there are two clear
signs with no times or days so apply 24x7.
HOwever, the most important point to make is that the PCN is not
addressed to you, but to the Royal Mail.The law on
decriminalised traffice enforcement like this, is that the owner
of the vehicle has responsibility for paying or appealing PCNs,
not the driver. So the question is, how did you receive this PCN
? You need to find out what the conditions of service are
related to traffic and parking PCNs. Such is the law, that you
cannot submit representations unless authorised by Royal Mail.
Of course you can pay it !!
So, you need to get info from Royal Mail on what their
arrangements are for PCN appeals and payments. Post here when
you know.
[/quote]
My manager handed the letter to me on 20/12/ in the afternoon so
I assume he received the letter to his office on the same day.
Everyone pays their own fines and I knew this was the case
beforehand as another worker had to pay their fine for parking
in a double yellow. They won't pay for the fine as I'm an agency
worker. When I mentioned appealing first before paying he said
"it's all yours you can do whatever you like".
I don't plan on using satnav as the appeal as in other threads
it doesn't seem to work and my manager has tried with past PCNs
and it was rejected. On other threads regarding the same BUS
GATE I've seen mentions of the distance as well as the fact that
the PCN states 28 days from the date of the notice and not the
date of service etc.
Was wondering if that would do any help
#Post#: 103501--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enfield, Code 33c Using a route restricted to certain
vehicles (Buses & Cycles only)
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: December 21, 2025, 4:29 pm
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--- Quote ---
> When I mentioned appealing first before paying he said "it's
all yours you can do whatever you like".
--- End Quote ---
Except you cannot do what you like at all, as the law is quite
clear; only the registered keeper can appeal.Only if you get a
letter of authority from Royal Mail can you appeal the matter.
So essentially your cojones are in a rat trap.
#Post#: 103503--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enfield, Code 33c Using a route restricted to certain
vehicles (Buses & Cycles only)
DIR By: Ozuma
Date: December 21, 2025, 4:33 pm
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
>
> [quote]When I mentioned appealing first before paying he said
"it's all yours you can do whatever you like".
--- End Quote ---
Except you cannot do what you like at all, as the law is quite
clear; only the registered keeper can appeal.Only if you get a
letter of authority from Royal Mail can you appeal the matter.
So essentially your cojones are in a rat trap.
[/quote]
I see. I appreciate the help, you just saved me a bunch of time.
I'll just pay and get it over with
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