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       #Post#: 103282--------------------------------------------------
       Barnet, Regents Park Road(N3), junction tillingbourne, yellow
       box 
   DIR By: lewis_ljh
       Date: December 20, 2025, 2:12 am
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       Hi,
       I received a PCN for stopping in a yellow box. As I was about to
       enter the yellow box a car overtook me from the middle lane into
       my lane on the left. This was before I entered the box but it
       all happened quite fast and didn’t really have time to react +
       plus I’m not a very experienced driver and Londons roads are
       quite complex. So I kept going as there roughly was enough room
       for me. I get over the car that did the overtake wouldn’t move
       fully forward so the back end of my car was in the yellow box.
       The majority of my car was out of the box.(not blocking the
       junction) too. If there’s anymore detail wanted don’t hesitate
       to reach out. Thank you in advance.
       Google Maps location:
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       #Post#: 103285--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Barnet, Regents Park Road(N3), junction tillingbourne,
       yellow box 
   DIR By: John U.K.
       Date: December 20, 2025, 2:21 am
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       Welcome to FTLA.  For meaningful advice please have a read of
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       and post up here
       (use
       ibb.co
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       or
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       for posting images.
       Wherever possible, use the BBCode.)
       all sides of the  PCN (only redact yr name & address - leave
       everything else in),and
       any council photos/video (the videp is the evidence).
       #Post#: 103290--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Barnet, Regents Park Road(N3), junction tillingbourne,
       yellow box 
   DIR By: lewis_ljh
       Date: December 20, 2025, 2:44 am
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       Hi John, all sides of the doc have now been uploaded. Please let
       me know if there’s anything else you require.
       #Post#: 103291--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Barnet, Regents Park Road(N3), junction tillingbourne,
       yellow box 
   DIR By: John U.K.
       Date: December 20, 2025, 2:47 am
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       --- Quote from: lewis_ljh link ---
       >
       > Hi John, all sides of the doc have now been uploaded. Please
       let me know if there’s anything else you require.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Err .... I don't see them??
       #Post#: 103292--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Barnet, Regents Park Road(N3), junction tillingbourne,
       yellow box 
   DIR By: lewis_ljh
       Date: December 20, 2025, 2:51 am
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       Can you not see them using this link:
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       ?
       #Post#: 103301--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Barnet, Regents Park Road(N3), junction tillingbourne,
       yellow box 
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: December 20, 2025, 4:30 am
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       Looking at the photo on the PCN, the YBJ extends beyond the
       junction, and you car is stopped with part of it in that
       extended part. Appeals have been won at London Tribunal on this
       issue. A YBJ can be installed "at the junction of two or more
       roads". The box here is too long, basically. Needless to say,
       Barnet won't accept any reps on this, all they want is your
       money, so you'd have to risk the full PCN penalty at London
       Tribunals with a fairly good chance of a win, but there is no
       guarantee of it.
       #Post#: 103314--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Barnet, Regents Park Road(N3), junction tillingbourne,
       yellow box 
   DIR By: mickR
       Date: December 20, 2025, 7:48 am
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       I agree the box is a  it big, however the video is required to
       see what happened just before you entered the box.
       #Post#: 103326--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Barnet, Regents Park Road(N3), junction tillingbourne,
       yellow box 
   DIR By: lewis_ljh
       Date: December 20, 2025, 9:33 am
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       Yeah very large. You can access the video on Barnets website
       using the reg plate and the PCN number. You can clearly see the
       car in front of my red one coming in from an overtake over the
       box. I will admit I hesitated slightly before entering the box.
       But traffic was high and I was more frightened stopping quickly
       would cause an issue.
       #Post#: 103352--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Barnet, Regents Park Road(N3), junction tillingbourne,
       yellow box 
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: December 20, 2025, 10:50 am
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       Looks entirely self-inflicted I'm afraid. You actually first
       stopped at the edge of the box and if you wanted you could
       easily have gone to the middle lane or stayed put.
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       Re: Barnet, Regents Park Road(N3), junction tillingbourne,
       yellow box 
   DIR By: mickR
       Date: December 20, 2025, 4:54 pm
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       I would say if the box wasn't so big the OP woukd have been
       clear, or VERY nearly clear
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