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       #Post#: 103143--------------------------------------------------
       Speeding Ticket on Highway at 5:00 in the morning
       By: nivby Date: December 19, 2025, 3:33 am
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       I was caught by a speeding camera on the two lanes highway
       connecting M11 to North Circular Road A406 - was driving 58 mph
       in a 50 zone.
       It was 5:00 AM with clear visibility, no traffic and no person
       can cross this road on foot - it is an elevated two lanes one
       way elevated road.
       It seems there is no danger in driving at this speed then, but
       the camera is operating 24/7 regardless of traffic and time.
       Can this speeding ticket be challenged in court?
       Thanks in adavnace
       Niv Ben-Yehuda
       #Post#: 103145--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Speeding Ticket on Highway at 5:00 in the morning
       By: Southpaw82 Date: December 19, 2025, 3:41 am
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       Not on the basis that you simply don’t agree with the limit, no.
       #Post#: 103146--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Speeding Ticket on Highway at 5:00 in the morning
       By: nivby Date: December 19, 2025, 3:45 am
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       Thanks - let me hear your advice anyway - thanks in advance.
       Niv
       #Post#: 103149--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Speeding Ticket on Highway at 5:00 in the morning
       By: FuzzyDuck Date: December 19, 2025, 3:56 am
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       Our general advice would be to name yourself as the driver and
       then accept the offer of a speed awareness course or fixed
       penalty.
       #Post#: 103152--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Speeding Ticket on Highway at 5:00 in the morning
       By: nivby Date: December 19, 2025, 4:03 am
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       I already have 6 points so accepting this will bring me to 9 -
       dangerous zone
       #Post#: 103155--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Speeding Ticket on Highway at 5:00 in the morning
       By: BertB Date: December 19, 2025, 4:16 am
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       Have you completed a speed awareness course in the last 3 years?
       Edit to add.
       [quote author=FuzzyDuck link=topic=9217.msg103149#msg103149
       date=1766138211]
       Our general advice would be to name yourself as the driver and
       then accept the offer of a speed awareness course or fixed
       penalty.
       [/quote]
       [quote author=nivby link=topic=9217.msg103152#msg103152
       date=1766138606]
       I already have 6 points so accepting this will bring me to 9 -
       dangerous zone
       [/quote]
       The naming of a driver is not optional regardless of how many
       points you have. Failure to do so will see you prosecuted for
       failure to furnish driver details which if convicted carries 6
       points which will then see you potentially banned as a 'totter'.
       
       When was the conviction date for the other points?
       #Post#: 103166--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Speeding Ticket on Highway at 5:00 in the morning
       By: JRHartley Date: December 19, 2025, 5:18 am
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       [quote author=BertB link=topic=9217.msg103155#msg103155
       date=1766139410]
       [quote author=nivby link=topic=9217.msg103152#msg103152
       date=1766138606]
       I already have 6 points so accepting this will bring me to 9 -
       dangerous zone
       [/quote]
       When was the conviction date for the other points?
       [/quote]
       When the OP mentions "dangerous zone", I think he's referring to
       the fact that if he ends up with 9 points, he would be in danger
       of totting in future. I don't think he's referring to a DD40,
       DD60 or DD80 endorsement. So surely it would be the offence
       dates that matter, not the conviction dates.
       #Post#: 103168--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Speeding Ticket on Highway at 5:00 in the morning
       By: nivby Date: December 19, 2025, 5:20 am
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       I did name myself as the driver. I have no option for driving
       awareness. Just to accept penalty and points or challenge in
       court.
       3 points will expire October next year so I will have 9 till
       then. If I get another 3 points I will lose my licence for 6
       months
       #Post#: 103169--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Speeding Ticket on Highway at 5:00 in the morning
       By: Southpaw82 Date: December 19, 2025, 5:23 am
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       I think that’s what is known as a “you problem”.
       #Post#: 103172--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Speeding Ticket on Highway at 5:00 in the morning
       By: FuzzyDuck Date: December 19, 2025, 5:29 am
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       [quote author=nivby link=topic=9217.msg103168#msg103168
       date=1766143253]
       I did name myself as the driver. I have no option for driving
       awareness. Just to accept penalty and points or challenge in
       court.
       3 points will expire October next year so I will have 9 till
       then. If I get another 3 points I will lose my licence for 6
       months
       [/quote]
       Either accept the 3 points or take it to court and plead not
       guilty. However nothing you have said suggests any viable
       defence.
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