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#Post#: 103162--------------------------------------------------
Re: Letter Before Claim from Moorside Legal (Alliance) unpaid
invoice.
DIR By: InterCity125
Date: December 19, 2025, 4:50 am
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If you're in the mood then you could start your own claim for
misuse of personal data etc.
The parking operator has also released your data to a third
party debt collectors.
Keep all letters as they could add up to a tidy sum.
#Post#: 103193--------------------------------------------------
Re: Letter Before Claim from Moorside Legal (Alliance) unpaid
invoice.
DIR By: b789
Date: December 19, 2025, 7:33 am
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It’ll go to a claim but it will almost certainly not reach a
hearing. I’ve already told you that Moorside are one of the most
incompetent bulk litigation firms and any claim they file will
be in breach of CPR 16.4(1)(a) which is highly likely to lead to
a strike out.
No doubt you can sense my disdain for this firm of greedy
wannabes but don’t let that cloud the advice I give you. Just
make sure that you report them to the SRA for their incompetence
and failure to abide by the PAPDC.
Every little bit helps, as they say.
#Post#: 104777--------------------------------------------------
Re: Letter Before Claim from Moorside Legal (Alliance parking)
unpaid invoice.
DIR By: Maximum Bob
Date: January 6, 2026, 9:45 am
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So things have perked up a bit after the xmas period.
Two things:
I sent a Subject Access request to Alliance parking and received
a fairly prompt response.
Included were two new car interior photos in PDF format (in
addition to the previously exterior shots) that on first glance
appear to show that no parking ticket was displayed.
Given that a ticket was absolutely displayed and easily visible
from outside the car there are two possibilities.
1 the photos were digitally altered to hide the presence of the
paid ticket receipt or
2 more likely that the photos were angled to hide the ticket.
I will place the original ticket in the car and take photos to
check...I am pretty sure it will be possible to take photos that
appear to show its not there.
I re-requested the photos from Alliance but in digital format
and they replied that I would have to pay for them and in any
case they would likely not contain metadata.
The fun part is that if I can convince a magistrate that having
paid for a pay and display ticket that I would on the balance of
probabilities clearly display the ticket (and I can take photos
that showing this is possible and it still be possible for the
parking guy to take photos that appear otherwise) then that
would make Alliance guilty of Attempted fraud by false
representation....and I could counterclaim on that basis (its
obviously also a criminal act but harder to prove).
Secondly I had a long email from the APN Group the parent
company of Moorside Legal Services Limited saying that the email
address for Subject Access requests has now been fixed.
I've sent a request to check if the help@moorside.co.uk email
address now works...though its no longer listed on their
website!.
#Post#: 104782--------------------------------------------------
Re: Letter Before Claim from Moorside Legal (Alliance parking)
unpaid invoice.
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: January 6, 2026, 10:05 am
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--- Quote from: Maximum Bob link ---
>
> Given that a ticket was absolutely displayed and easily
visible from outside the car there are two possibilities.
> 1 the photos were digitally altered to hide the presence of
the paid ticket receipt or
> 2 more likely that the photos were angled to hide the ticket.
>
--- End Quote ---
3 a rather dozy attendant didn't spot it (I'm not saying this
did happen, but it's another possibility that you would need to
rule out if you were going after them for the deliberate false
representation point)
I think you're correct that #2 is far more likely than #1. I'd
be amazed if Alliance considered it worth the effort and legal
risk to doctor a photo for the sake of £100, they make enough
money without resorting to that. An attendant who is potentially
paid a commission for each PCN issued on the other hand...
More generally, I'm not sure it matters which of the potential
possibilities is correct for the purposes of your defence and
witness statement (and accordingly expending too many words
speculating in your defence/WS might be counterproductive) -
your job as defendant is to swing the balance of probabilities
such that the district judge believes that on the balance of
probabilities a ticket was displayed. It is probably easier to
demonstrate how a ticket might have been clearly displayed yet
not be visible in the photos, than to demonstrate why (e.g.
trying to demonstrate intentional deceit on the part of the
attendant).
A very minor clarification - no magistrate will be involved,
this is a civil case.
#Post#: 105298--------------------------------------------------
Re: Letter Before Claim from Moorside Legal (Alliance) unpaid
invoice.
DIR By: Maximum Bob
Date: January 10, 2026, 3:48 am
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Seems that "not displaying a valid ticket" is a common scam for
Alliance parking.
Having a valid ticket and emailing them an image of it doesn't
work.
They have photos of the inside of your car showing only where
there isn't a ticket.
How do you fight against that?
I got a reply from APN group who are the parent company of
moorside legal with some waffle about a security update causing
some emails to help@moorside failing or bouncing.
Anyway long story short I received a reply from moorside to my
subject data request.
It was the same as the one from Alliance except it contained
digital copies of the car photos albeit with some of the
metadata stripped out.
They are still demanding payment.
Today I took advice from a solicitor from a panel that provide
legal services as part of my house insurance.
Plan A is to let moorside take the case to court.
If we are successful then hire a different firm of solicitors on
a no win no fee basis to sue Alliance for attempted fraud by
false representation. If we win that then report Alliance to
reportfraud.police.uk
#Post#: 107005--------------------------------------------------
Re: Letter Before Claim from Moorside Legal (Alliance) unpaid
invoice.
DIR By: Maximum Bob
Date: January 22, 2026, 2:19 pm
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Update:
had a text from BPO asking me to phone them quoting a ref
number.
Am I right inn thinking that Moorside have bailed and sold on
the debt to BPO.
If true what is a good course of action?
#Post#: 107010--------------------------------------------------
Re: Letter Before Claim from Moorside Legal (Alliance) unpaid
invoice.
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: January 22, 2026, 3:00 pm
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Who are BPO? They're not a name I've heard mentioned in relation
to private parking charges.
It would also be somewhat unusual to hear from a debt collector
after the matter has escalated to solicitors. Are you sure this
text from BPO is in relation to this parking charge?
Moorside won't have sold the debt as it is not theirs to sell,
Alliance is the (alleged) creditor, not them. In practice, we
don't see parking companies selling debts - they engage debt
collectors, but remain the creditor themselves (from memory,
their KADOE contract with DVLA prohibits them from selling any
alleged debts, but don't quote me on that).
#Post#: 107017--------------------------------------------------
Re: Letter Before Claim from Moorside Legal (Alliance) unpaid
invoice.
DIR By: Maximum Bob
Date: January 22, 2026, 3:36 pm
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Yeah I'll go onto BPOs website tomorrow and see what their story
is and update.
The phone number supplied is theirs so not likely to be a scam.
I'm not aware of any other debts though...so can't imagine what
else it can be.
I also registered on the reportfraud.police.uk website this
evening and will report Alliance for attempted fraud by false
representation when their Chat facility comes online tomorrow
morning.
#Post#: 107030--------------------------------------------------
Re: Letter Before Claim from Moorside Legal (Alliance) unpaid
invoice.
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: January 22, 2026, 5:19 pm
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--- Quote from: Maximum Bob link ---
>
> The phone number supplied is theirs so not likely to be a
scam.
>
--- End Quote ---
Sounds a lot like an entirely unrelated scam. BPO Collections
are a real company from what I can see, but as I noted I've
never seen them come up collecitng for a parking company - this
is likely a con artist posing as BPO.
#Post#: 107060--------------------------------------------------
Re: Letter Before Claim from Moorside Legal (Alliance) unpaid
invoice.
DIR By: Maximum Bob
Date: January 23, 2026, 4:23 am
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Thanks...yeah I also had a phone call that went to voicemail
saying they were from BPO so I googled the number (01418462076)
which does resolve to BPO but on the "who called me" website its
cited as scam calls. Weird though as the number they give to
call is BPOs number and BPO sort of look legit. Good to know
that BPO aren't involved with PCNs.
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