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#Post#: 102513--------------------------------------------------
Letter Before Claim from Moorside Legal (Alliance) unpaid
invoice.
DIR By: Maximum Bob
Date: December 15, 2025, 9:05 am
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I have been following the other previous recent LBC Moorside
thread.
Mine is slightly different in that I paid a ticket and left the
car park in time but Alliance are claiming that I didn't display
my ticket correctly.
Alliance acknowledged that I paid (after I posted them an image
of my ticket) but claimed it was not correctly displayed.
Now 3.5 years letter they have resurrected the PCN and
instructed Moorside to claim the outstanding unpaid invoice of
£170.
I posted b789 standard response (Response to your Letter of
Claim Ref: ) as suggested in the other Moorside thread using the
Post office signed for service and it was signed for today at
their registered office address in Oldham.
I also emailed a complaint to the SRA and complained about
Moorside in an online chat with the ICO.
I have zero intention of paying anyone anything...I would rather
go to court and risk losing than pay these **** anything
upfront.
So having sent the letter "Response to your Letter of Claim Ref:
[reference number]" what would be my next step.
Thanks
#Post#: 102514--------------------------------------------------
Re: Letter Before Claim from Moorside Legal (Alliance) unpaid
invoice.
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: December 15, 2025, 9:31 am
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--- Quote from: Maximum Bob link ---
>
> So having sent the letter "Response to your Letter of Claim
Ref: [reference number]" what would be my next step.
>
--- End Quote ---
Waiting for them to issue a claim, then returning here for
advice.
In the meantime, based on my reading of what you have posted,
there would seem to be a fair argument that the charge is not
commercially justified. But, it would be helpful if you could
show us the original PCN, and your subsequent correspondence
with Alliance.
#Post#: 102933--------------------------------------------------
Re: Letter Before Claim from Moorside Legal (Alliance) unpaid
invoice.
DIR By: Maximum Bob
Date: December 17, 2025, 3:13 pm
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This is my reply to the original PCN from Alliance parking back
in 2022
HTML https://www.imagebam.com/view/GAGYKT
I have the original PCN, I can track it down if important.
Their reply was "the charge was incurred due to a failure to
display, not a failure to pay; as per the terms of our
contract."
How do they even prove that.
They didn't put a PCN on my windscreen while I was parked but
sent it in the post some 10 days after.
Since if they had approached the vehicle to stick the the PCN on
they would have seen my paid parking ticket.
I suspect they hope that most drivers would have thrown old
tickets away.
Then they wait 3.5 years to dig up this old story hoping drivers
will be intimidated into paying.
Thanks for your input.
#Post#: 102934--------------------------------------------------
Re: Letter Before Claim from Moorside Legal (Alliance) unpaid
invoice.
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: December 17, 2025, 3:14 pm
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Can you please show us the original PCN?
#Post#: 103074--------------------------------------------------
Re: Letter Before Claim from Moorside Legal (Alliance) unpaid
invoice.
DIR By: Maximum Bob
Date: December 18, 2025, 2:30 pm
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This is the original PCN
HTML https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME18UT7L
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Re: Letter Before Claim from Moorside Legal (Alliance) unpaid
invoice.
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: December 18, 2025, 3:11 pm
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--- Quote ---
> if they had approached the vehicle to stick the the PCN on
they would have seen my paid parking ticket.
--- End Quote ---
The notice seems to show that someone did approach the vehicle.
There is a photo of what appears to be the front windscreen
covered by some sort of black covering...
#Post#: 103107--------------------------------------------------
Re: Letter Before Claim from Moorside Legal (Alliance) unpaid
invoice.
DIR By: Maximum Bob
Date: December 18, 2025, 4:55 pm
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Someone certainly walked past the car and took a photo from a
distance...its hardly evidence that a ticket wasn't displayed.
Is it reasonable to believe that someone who enters a Pay &
Display car park, goes to a ticket machine, pays the correct £5
for a ticket would then display it as required...I think it
is...and luckily I still have the ticket stub.
If the car park attendant had walked to the front of the car he
would have seen the paid ticket.
If there was no ticket he could have left a PCN on the
windscreen.
Or if there was no ticket he could have taken a photo of the
interior demonstrating the lack of a ticket...but no he simply
snapped a picture of the front of the car from a distance.
And why wait 3.5 years to take legal action if they had a just
case?
If it goes to court then its highly likely Alliance/Moorside
would lose.
Or do you disagree?
#Post#: 103109--------------------------------------------------
Re: Letter Before Claim from Moorside Legal (Alliance) unpaid
invoice.
DIR By: b789
Date: December 18, 2025, 5:02 pm
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Have you checked their website for other photos they may have?
Go as though to appeal and see what other evidential photo they
may have.
If they don't have any that clearly show that a ticket was not
displayed, then you are safe.
They can issue a claim up to 6 years from the date of the
alleged contravention. However, as this is being handled by the
utter incompetents at Moorside Legal there is almost zero chance
that that any claim would go as far as a hearing. In most cases,
Moorside are so moronic, their claims are either struck out or
they discontinue.
#Post#: 103144--------------------------------------------------
Re: Letter Before Claim from Moorside Legal (Alliance) unpaid
invoice.
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: December 19, 2025, 3:39 am
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--- Quote ---
> Or do you disagree?
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I don't disagree, but part of offering good advice is examining
your position with a view to strengthening your case.
Your position is that a ticket was displayed. Their position is
that one was not. So far, we have seen a photo of the front of
the car showing that the front windscreen was entirely covered,
but no other photos of the other windows, for example (hence
b789's question above).
#Post#: 103157--------------------------------------------------
Re: Letter Before Claim from Moorside Legal (Alliance) unpaid
invoice.
DIR By: Maximum Bob
Date: December 19, 2025, 4:26 am
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Thanks for your replies.
I have made a "subject access request" to Alliance to see
exactly what information and photos they have.
I don't think the photos on the PCN are clear enough to be
certain that a photo of my displayed ticket was definitely not
visible from close to the vehicle.
Luckily I still have the original PCN plus the actual ticket
from 3 years ago plus all the letters from Trace and Moorside.
How they thing they can succeed at court when I have the
original ticket, the email to Alliance showing the ticket from 3
years ago, is beyond me.
Quite looking forward to going to court, it should be fun.
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