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#Post#: 107702--------------------------------------------------
Re: Euro car park - Fullwell cross Leisure centre.
DIR By: Hashim
Date: January 28, 2026, 8:43 am
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Great.
Hashim
#Post#: 109302--------------------------------------------------
Re: Euro car park - Fullwell cross Leisure centre.
DIR By: Hashim
Date: February 10, 2026, 5:42 am
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Good afternoon Intercity125
Have you had time to draft a response yet!.
Also received a response from Redbridge council as follows:
Date: 10 February 2026
Dear Mr Oomerjee
Thank you for your complaint received on 23 December 2025.
The matters you raise have been considered and the response is
set out below:
The London Borough of Redbridge is the freehold owner of the
land comprising Fullwell Cross Leisure Centre.
However, the leisure centre and its associated car park are
demised under a long lease to Vision - Redbridge Culture &
Leisure, a charitable company. Under that lease, Vision has
exclusive possession and control of the premises, including
responsibility for the operation and management of the car park.
The car park is operated as an ancillary facility to the leisure
centre and is not managed or enforced by the Council under its
statutory traffic management or civil parking enforcement
powers. No Traffic Regulation Order applies to the site, and the
Council does not exercise day‑to‑day control over
parking at this location.
For clarity Vision - Redbridge Culture & Leisure operate as a
wholly independent entity with its own Board of Management. In
the circumstances, Vision is free to make its own arrangements
in respect of the management of its car parks. The car park is
not operated by the Council as a traffic authority parking
place.
On the basis of the lease arrangements in place, Fullwell Cross
Leisure Centre car park is not excluded land for the purposes of
Schedule 4, and it is therefore open to the occupier to operate
parking management arrangements under private law, including
reliance on Schedule 4 where the statutory conditions are met.
Vision has appointed Euro Car Parks Ltd to provide parking
management services at the site, insofar as the Council can
ascertain they are legally entitled to do so.
The Council is satisfied that the operator is not asserting
keeper liability on land which is statutorily excluded from
Schedule 4.
There is no evidence before the Council that DVLA data is being
obtained or processed in an improper or misleading legal basis
at this location.
Your request for the correspondence to be shared with Legal
Services and the Monitoring Officer has been noted, and this
response fulfils that request.
In summary:
The car park at Fullwell Cross Leisure Centre is not operated by
the Council as a traffic authority parking place.
The land is not excluded from Schedule 4 of the Protection of
Freedoms Act 2012.
Private parking enforcement arrangements at the site are capable
of being lawful, subject to compliance with the applicable
statutory and regulatory requirements.
I trust this clarifies the Council's position.
I regret that you felt it necessary to complain and am grateful
you took the time to bring these concerns to our attention. I
hope our response has now answered and resolved the concerns you
raised.
I trust that we have dealt with your complaint satisfactorily.
If, however you are not satisfied with our explanation, in some
circumstances we may consider a request that your complaint is
considered as a Stage 2 Review. You will need to:
provide detailed information as to why you are unhappy with our
Stage 1 response
provide detailed information and evidence as to why you feel
your complaint has not been answered in our Stage 1 response
provide detailed information as to the outcome you are seeking
from raising a Stage 2 review
A request for a Review should be made within 20 working days. In
some circumstances, we may not escalate your complaint, however,
we will write to you giving our reasons for this.
A senior manager will be appointed to review your complaint, and
we will write to tell you the outcome of the Stage 2 Review
within 20 working days.
If you would like your complaint reviewed, please respond to
this email
Yours sincerely
[REDACTED]
Business Improvement Manager
London Borough of Redbridge
www.redbridge.gov.uk
@RedbridgeLive
www.facebook.com/Redbridge
#Post#: 109334--------------------------------------------------
Re: Euro car park - Fullwell cross Leisure centre.
DIR By: InterCity125
Date: February 10, 2026, 9:00 am
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I find that the Council's response is contradictory and seems to
be an attempt to get around the 'relevant land' issue.
Schedule 4 Paragraph 3(1)(b) specifically excludes "a parking
place which is provided OR controlled by a traffic authority"
The council's response ONLY deals with the 'controlled' part of
the legislation.
'Vision - Redbridge Culture & Leisure' are still a company under
the umbrella of Redbridge Council.
Our argument is that the car park is still 'provided' by the
council (or it's direct subsidiary).
The council's response does not deal with BOTH legs of the
legislation.
The legislation clearly sees both aspects as important otherwise
the wording would only state 'a parking place controlled by a
traffic authority' - therefore the word 'provided' must have a
specific meaning which differs from the meaning of 'controlled'?
#Post#: 109344--------------------------------------------------
Re: Euro car park - Fullwell cross Leisure centre.
DIR By: Hashim
Date: February 10, 2026, 9:52 am
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So where do we go from here.
#Post#: 109352--------------------------------------------------
Re: Euro car park - Fullwell cross Leisure centre.
DIR By: InterCity125
Date: February 10, 2026, 10:23 am
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Wait on POPLA.
#Post#: 109355--------------------------------------------------
Re: Euro car park - Fullwell cross Leisure centre.
DIR By: Hashim
Date: February 10, 2026, 10:32 am
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Thanks.
#Post#: 109436--------------------------------------------------
Re: Euro car park - Fullwell cross Leisure centre.
DIR By: Hashim
Date: February 11, 2026, 6:03 am
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Good Morning.
I have received the following communication from POPLA:
Dear Mr Oomerjee,
Your parking charge appeal against Euro Car Parks - EW.
Euro Car Parks - EW has now uploaded its evidence to your
appeal. This will be available for you to view by clicking here
Please note: some evidence may not show immediately, if it is
not currently available on your account please check back later
before contacting us.
You have seven days from the date of this correspondence to
provide comments on the evidence uploaded by Euro Car Parks -
EW.
Please note that these comments must relate to the grounds of
appeal you submitted when first lodging your appeal with POPLA,
we do not accept new grounds of appeal or evidence at this stage
Any comments received after the period of seven days has ended
will not be considered and we will progress your appeal for
assessment. Therefore, if you have any issues with the evidence
uploaded by Euro Car Parks - EW such as being unable to view it
online, please contact POPLA immediately via phone - 0330 1596
126, or email - info@popla.co.uk, so that we can look to rectify
this as soon as possible.
After this period has ended, we will aim to issue our decision
as quickly as possible. The decision we reach is final and
binding. When the decision is reached there is no further option
for appeal.
Yours sincerely
POPLA Team
ET6114/003
This is the link to view this document.
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PU-UADmNgY3CRiHLm8W4CZ0o-s5We4LR/view?usp=sharing
What's next.......
Thanks
Hashim
#Post#: 109437--------------------------------------------------
Re: Euro car park - Fullwell cross Leisure centre.
DIR By: jfollows
Date: February 11, 2026, 6:09 am
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You need to construct a response in which
- you point to any points you made in your appeal, but which
have been ignored by ECP in their response are effectively
points that they agree with
- for other points made by ECP, you challenge them because if
you don’t you imply that you agree with them
I have not myself read your attachment(s) but someone else who
does may have more observations.
#Post#: 109438--------------------------------------------------
Re: Euro car park - Fullwell cross Leisure centre.
DIR By: InterCity125
Date: February 11, 2026, 6:15 am
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I cannot access the document.
#Post#: 109440--------------------------------------------------
Re: Euro car park - Fullwell cross Leisure centre.
DIR By: Hashim
Date: February 11, 2026, 6:38 am
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Please try now as I have lifted the restrictions
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