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#Post#: 102788--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN on a double yellow line in tower hamlets
DIR By: Ash487
Date: December 17, 2025, 2:31 am
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So initially my nephew did help me take some of the load to the
building door which is about 20 metres from where I parked but I
then had told him to go back to the car and wait in case a
parking attendant came. There were 4 bags in total, the heaviest
being a load of a few plates and mugs so I had to be careful
when walking. The other bags were pots, pans etc.
#Post#: 102939--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN on a double yellow line in tower hamlets
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: December 17, 2025, 3:55 pm
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Clearly the basis of any reps you submit must be the loading
exemption. You need to fill out on the weight and bulk of the
goods, and why it was necessary to park on DYLs to do the
unloading. However, as you will find out, the usual response to
a submission of a challenge, is for the council to send out a
Fob-Off letter refusing it.They do this because they know from
experience that most people, (>95%), then cough-up to get the
discount, not knowing much qbout parking law. Is this you ?
#Post#: 102943--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN on a double yellow line in tower hamlets
DIR By: Ash487
Date: December 17, 2025, 4:19 pm
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This is certainly not me and I do not want to pay an unfair
penalty yet again to the council/government. Can yiu advise me
what to write out on the appeal?
#Post#: 102951--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN on a double yellow line in tower hamlets
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: December 17, 2025, 4:45 pm
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I suggest you write something like this: -
--- Quote ---
> Dear Sirs
>
> Re PCN <PCN Number> served on <date> at <location>
>
> I am submitting a request that the above PCN be cancelled, as
at the time it was served I was engaged in loading, (an
exemption to yellow lines). I was engaged in conveying domestic
equipment goods of such weight and bulk that it was necessary to
park on the yellow lines to convey them to <address> a short
distance away.
> I therefore request that the PCN be cancelled.
>
> Yours faithfully
--- End Quote ---
Can you support the above with any details of the equipment and
goods being loaded ? If so, I would include this as an addendum.
#Post#: 102953--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN on a double yellow line in tower hamlets
DIR By: Ash487
Date: December 17, 2025, 4:52 pm
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I will use the above as a template.
Can I also mention that someone was clearly waiting in the car
whilst the ticket was issued?
Can I also argue that on the PCn its mentioned that the car was
observed from 20:47 - 20:53 but all the images on the PCN
evidence are timed at 20:54?
#Post#: 102955--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN on a double yellow line in tower hamlets
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: December 17, 2025, 5:05 pm
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--- Quote from: Ash487 link ---
>
> I will use the above as a template.
> Can I also mention that someone was clearly waiting in the car
whilst the ticket was issued?
> Can I also argue that on the PCn its mentioned that the car
was observed from 20:47 - 20:53 but all the images on the PCN
evidence are timed at 20:54?
>
--- End Quote ---
Presence of a person in the car is irrelevant; the vehicle was
"waiting" so on contravention. PCN photos are normally taken
after the PCN has been served so that a photo of the PCN on the
windscreen can be taken.
#Post#: 102962--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN on a double yellow line in tower hamlets
DIR By: Ash487
Date: December 17, 2025, 6:14 pm
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Is there anything else I could possibly add which could
support/help with my appeal?
#Post#: 102979--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN on a double yellow line in tower hamlets
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: December 18, 2025, 2:27 am
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--- Quote from: Ash487 link ---
>
> Is there anything else I could possibly add which could
support/help with my appeal?
>
--- End Quote ---
Please tell us more about this:-
--- Quote ---
> Regarding any evidence of loading, I have none. I just got out
of the car to help a family member into the building, up the
starirs and into their flat with some bags.
>
--- End Quote ---
Was this just a courtesy, or is the family member disabled or
anything ? Apart from 'loading', there is an exemption for
'boarding/alighting' passengers. Normally this only allows
picking up or setting down, but there is also 'assisted
boarding' where the driver assists the passenger due to
infirmity or disablement.
#Post#: 103680--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN on a double yellow line in tower hamlets
DIR By: mickR
Date: December 23, 2025, 11:11 am
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
>
> [quote author=Ash487 link=topic=9149.msg102953#msg102953
date=1766011945]
> I will use the above as a template.
> Can I also mention that someone was clearly waiting in the car
whilst the ticket was issued?
> Can I also argue that on the PCn its mentioned that the car
was observed from 20:47 - 20:53 but all the images on the PCN
evidence are timed at 20:54?
>
--- End Quote ---
Presence of a person in the car is irrelevant; the vehicle was
"waiting" so on contravention. PCN photos are normally taken
after the PCN has been served so that a photo of the PCN on the
windscreen can be taken.
[/quote]
just to note some authority's mention the vehicle has to be
"attended" at all times (which clearly cannot happen if you are
alone) so might be sn idea to include it to head off that
argument before it starts.
#Post#: 106638--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN on a double yellow line in tower hamlets - challenge
rejected
DIR By: Ash487
Date: January 20, 2026, 6:07 am
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I recently uploaded my query before Christmas regarding a PCN
for parking on a double yellow whilst unloading. tower hamlets
council have rejected it and I have added their response below.
Their main argument is that the car was monitored for 7 mins or
so and no one was seen to be unloading. I would be grateful of
any advice on how to continue to appeal against this charge.
Tower Hamlets response;
refer to your challenge about the above Penalty Charge Notice,
which has now been
considered in accordance with the Traffic Management Act 2004.
We refer to your appeal against the issuance of Penalty Charge
Notice (PCN), issued for
parking on a double yellow line in a restricted street.
An observation was carried out by the Civil Enforcement Officer
from 20:37 to 20:43, during
which no loading activity was observed. The officer also noted
that the driver returned to the
vehicle after the PCN was issued, at which point the notice was
handed directly to the driver.
The evidence indicates that the vehicle was parked in
contravention of the Traffic Regulation
Order, and no valid exemption (such as loading or unloading)
applied at the time. Therefore,
the PCN was correctly issued and remains enforceable.
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