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#Post#: 102326--------------------------------------------------
Two wheels on kerb parking rules?
DIR By: LotusOne
Date: December 13, 2025, 10:29 am
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Can anyone tell me what the default position is regarding
parking with two wheels on the kerb?
Background:
For many years most people in our street have been parking
outside their own houses with two wheels on the pavement, a few
with four wheels on the pavement where it is wide enough. Say
five years ago the local Council painted some lines pn the
pavement denoting parking spaces, these are now very faded; no
one took any notice and just carried on parking where they
always had.
Well more recently I noticed some blue signs near the ends of
the road suggesting it was ok to park with two wheels on the
pavement. All of these signs have now gone.
Since then a number of the neighbours have received parking
tickets for parking with two wheels on the kerb but not within
the aforementioned white lines.
I thought it was fine to park with two wheels on the kerb as
long as it didn't block the pavement.
#Post#: 102338--------------------------------------------------
Re: Two wheels on kerb parking rules?
DIR By: RichardW
Date: December 13, 2025, 12:21 pm
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Where are you? It's not allowed in London (for a long time), and
recently banned in Scotland.
#Post#: 102340--------------------------------------------------
Re: Two wheels on kerb parking rules?
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: December 13, 2025, 12:26 pm
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Off-carriageway parking has been banned in London since 1974
except where exempted/permitted.
Legislation:
HTML https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukla/1974/24/section/15
This section is for live PCNs so if you want help with one, post
it.
#Post#: 102389--------------------------------------------------
Re: Two wheels on kerb parking rules?
DIR By: Grant Urismo
Date: December 14, 2025, 7:24 am
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The Council needs to officially create a pavement parking
restriction (or if it's in London/Scotland, officially remove
the default one), and they also need to install and maintain
signage and road markings that adequately conveys the official
restriction to the motorist.
You can fight and win PCNs if the council messes up either the
documentation or signage part, and also (briefly) if there's a
reasonable expectation of non-enforcement.
#Post#: 102413--------------------------------------------------
Re: Two wheels on kerb parking rules?
DIR By: LotusOne
Date: December 14, 2025, 12:57 pm
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--- Quote from: RichardW link ---
>
> Where are you? It's not allowed in London (for a long time),
and recently banned in Scotland.
>
--- End Quote ---
In Havering so I guess that, for the moment at least, is part of
Greater London.
#Post#: 102420--------------------------------------------------
Re: Two wheels on kerb parking rules?
DIR By: mickR
Date: December 14, 2025, 1:52 pm
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it would all depend on what the TMO says. clearly there was one
(or should have been) as bays and signs were placed. if there
has been a change ie the removal of the exemption to allow
pavement parking, this should have been conveyed to motorists
by the way of signage placed at the location.
#Post#: 102424--------------------------------------------------
Re: Two wheels on kerb parking rules?
DIR By: LotusOne
Date: December 14, 2025, 2:28 pm
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--- Quote from: mickR link ---
>
> it would all depend on what the TMO says. clearly there was
one (or should have been) as bays and signs were placed. if
there has been a change ie the removal of the exemption to allow
pavement parking, this should have been conveyed to motorists
by the way of signage placed at the location.
>
--- End Quote ---
Havering Council usually refuse to release details of TMOs, I
have previous experience of this. As this is in Greater London
I guess they would not need a TMO as, I am now aware, the
default is that pavement parking is not allowed. Who knew!
#Post#: 102427--------------------------------------------------
Re: Two wheels on kerb parking rules?
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: December 14, 2025, 3:17 pm
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Havering has taken its traffic order map off Traffweb where we
could see them.
Who knew? We did and I think most drivers in London know about
the off-carriageway ban.
#Post#: 102502--------------------------------------------------
Re: Two wheels on kerb parking rules?
DIR By: LotusOne
Date: December 15, 2025, 8:20 am
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--- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
>
> Havering has taken its traffic order map off Traffweb where we
could see them.
>
> Who knew? We did and I think most drivers in London know about
the off-carriageway ban.
>
--- End Quote ---
Sorry but beg to differ, I'm afraid, out here in the Essex part
of Greater London people have been parking partially on the
pavement in unmarked spaces for years. There are many villages
where if everyone started parking four wheels on the road no
traffic would get through.
What about where people park two wheels on the verge, how are
councils going to paint white lines on the grass.
#Post#: 102507--------------------------------------------------
Re: Two wheels on kerb parking rules?
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: December 15, 2025, 8:48 am
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Yes we know there is longstanding such parking that hasn't been
enforced in parts of outer London but authorities are tending to
regulate their streets more now.
I expect many taking advantage of lack of enforcement do know
not to do it in other parts of London. After all this dates back
to 1974 and has been passed down through possibly two
generations.
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