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#Post#: 102245--------------------------------------------------
Contravention 31J - Yellow Box Jnct - Holland Park Ave jcn with
Royal Cres/Addison Rd
DIR By: almep13
Date: December 12, 2025, 5:22 pm
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Dear Forum members,
I hope you are all well.
This case is on behalf of my neighbour, who thought that had
cleared the yellow box by looking on the right back wheel.
However, it seems that the rear left wheel is not fully cleared
due to yellow lines not being perpendicular with the road and
barely touching the yellow line.
I attach links for the PCN and the picture of the car as below.
HTML https://imgpile.com/p/Mq6Xoqm#DNesXbl
HTML https://imgpile.com/p/Mq6Xoqm#2UmwOzK
I am aware of the posting by Hipocrates (thank you) regarding
PCN's compliance with Para. 4 (8 ) (v) and the case won against
Hounslow as per the links below. Is there any other points to
use in the appeal i.e. the fact that the driver believed to have
cleared the yellow box as otherwise it may have driven another
few centimeters or that the left rear wheel barely touches the
yellow box with no real infringement or advantage taking place
or the time deminimis. However, the latter may not be a strong
point as the car may have stopped for just over 5 seconds.
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg86653/#msg86653
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mpB3obxgDkbzTrC_YbGNPC7K3vhqqKIt/view?pli=1
Thank you in advance for your time and your views.
Kind regards,
Almep13
#Post#: 102249--------------------------------------------------
Re: Contravention 31J - Yellow Box Jnct - Holland Park Ave jcn
with Royal Cres/Addison Rd
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: December 12, 2025, 5:45 pm
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Looking at your photo, taken from their video, this is the most
outrageous PCN I have ever seen for a YBJ. The car is clear of
the YBJ with the rear wheel only touching the yellow line, not
even over it. However we need to see the video and going onto
Hounslow's website, it doesn't recognise the PCN number, so has
your neighbour now paid the PCN ? If he has then it is game
over, sorry.
#Post#: 102250--------------------------------------------------
Re: Contravention 31J - Yellow Box Jnct - Holland Park Ave jcn
with Royal Cres/Addison Rd
DIR By: almep13
Date: December 12, 2025, 5:49 pm
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Hi Incadecent,
Thank you for the prompt response, I appreciate.
It's not Hounslow Borough, it's RBKC (Kensington & Chelsea),
that's why you can't see it. Apologies, should have stated it in
the title.
HTML https://ocmlive.xrxpsc.com/rbkc/ocm-fe/ocm/Details.aspx
Kind regards,
Almep13
#Post#: 102253--------------------------------------------------
Re: Contravention 31J - Yellow Box Jnct - Holland Park Ave jcn
with Royal Cres/Addison Rd
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: December 12, 2025, 6:09 pm
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Many thanks. Why on earth did I think it was Hounslow !!!!
Yes, video shows your car fractionally in the YBJ, the wheel
being clear. So I would submit reps on the basis that the
contravention did not occur, de minimis, stating that the car
was virtually clear of the box as the video shows the real wheel
of the stopped car outside the box.
What venal and rapacious cretins they are !
There may be a 'technical'appeal as well. These are based on
council mismanagement of the enforcement process, but I'm not
expert on these.
#Post#: 102261--------------------------------------------------
Re: Contravention 31J - Yellow Box Jnct - Holland Park Ave jcn
with Royal Cres/Addison Rd
DIR By: almep13
Date: December 13, 2025, 1:30 am
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Good morning Incandescent and thank you for your comments.
I agree with you. However, with Local Authority's funding being
squeezed year-on-year by central government of all colours, PCNs
have been a relying and increasing funding source. For councils
it's a numbers game issuing as many PCNs as they can knowing
that they have nothing to lose but all to gain. On a similar
PCN, half of the motorist will pay straightaway, the other 30%
will appeal and lose and the remaining 20% will have their
appeals uphold at best.
I shall wait few days for comments before I compile a draft
appeal.
Thank you once again and have a nice week-end.
Kind regards,
Almep13
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Re: Contravention 31J - Yellow Box Jnct - Holland Park Ave jcn
with Royal Cres/Addison Rd
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: December 13, 2025, 5:05 am
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This is extrapolation of the urine.
#Post#: 102352--------------------------------------------------
Re: Contravention 31J - Yellow Box Jnct - Holland Park Ave jcn
with Royal Cres/Addison Rd
DIR By: almep13
Date: December 13, 2025, 2:15 pm
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Good evening Hippocrates,
Thank you for the link and your valuable comments.
Kind regards,
Almep13
#Post#: 116317--------------------------------------------------
Re: Contravention 31J - Yellow Box Jnct - Holland Park Ave jcn
with Royal Cres/Addison Rd
DIR By: almep13
Date: April 19, 2026, 4:46 am
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Dear All,
I hope you are all well and enjoying the spring weather.
Just to let you know that RBKC council cancelled this PCN.
Thank you for your all your help and valuable views.
Have a nice Sunday.
Kind regards,
Almep13
#Post#: 116318--------------------------------------------------
Re: Contravention 31J - Yellow Box Jnct - Holland Park Ave jcn
with Royal Cres/Addison Rd
DIR By: astralite
Date: April 19, 2026, 4:54 am
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Well done.
#Post#: 116348--------------------------------------------------
Re: Contravention 31J - Yellow Box Jnct - Holland Park Ave jcn
with Royal Cres/Addison Rd
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: April 19, 2026, 1:11 pm
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> Well done.
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Me too !
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