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       #Post#: 102225--------------------------------------------------
       Has the world gone mad?
       By: Brenda_R2 Date: December 12, 2025, 12:18 pm
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       SURELY?
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       If you can't be bothered to click on the link:
       "The family of a security guard shot dead while on the job in
       Florida has been awarded a $779 million payout.
       Reverend Lewis Butler was fatally shot while attempting to
       protect a cashier during an attempted robbery at an internet
       gambling cafe in Havana, Florida, in November 2023"
       His death is an absolute tragedy, let's not forget that and I'd
       understand, and fully support, a financial award to his family
       of his annual salary multiplied by the number of years he had
       left to work.
       $779 million seems a tad excessive?
       #Post#: 102226--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Has the world gone mad?
       By: Southpaw82 Date: December 12, 2025, 12:34 pm
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       Who cares (except for those paying and receiving the award).
       Juries seem to do this all the time. It will probably be
       appealed.
       #Post#: 102464--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Has the world gone mad?
       By: BertB Date: December 15, 2025, 4:31 am
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       Somehow the bit that leaps out as odd isn't the payout, but that
       a Reverend was working as a security guard at an internet
       gambling cafe.
       Unless 'Reverend Lewis Butler' was his actual full name I guess.
       
       #Post#: 102470--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Has the world gone mad?
       By: DWMB2 Date: December 15, 2025, 4:50 am
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       On the 8th day, god created online betting.
       #Post#: 103066--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Has the world gone mad?
       By: Dave Green Date: December 18, 2025, 1:23 pm
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       [quote author=Brenda_R2 link=topic=9130.msg102225#msg102225
       date=1765563481]
       SURELY?
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       $779 million seems a tad excessive?[/quote]
       There's not a chance in hell that the family will get anywhere
       near to the figure that was awarded.
       The owners of the business will hopefully have liability
       insurance which will probably be for a maximum of a few million
       $ and the owner of the business could have his personal
       financial assets seized and once all of the lawyers have had
       their cut, the family will get whatever is left.
       There is also tax to consider.
       Damages in the US are generally made up of two parts, actual and
       punitive. Actual damages (such as medical bills, loss of income
       etc) are not taxable but punitive damages (which are designed to
       punish the guilty party) will probably be taxed so some of the
       money the family do receive may well go to the IRS.
       #Post#: 103224--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Has the world gone mad?
       By: PallasAthena Date: December 19, 2025, 9:40 am
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       Eye catching damages awards by juries in the USA get reported
       quite often but are usually appealed and the appeal judges (no
       jury involved in appeals) typically reduce them to a fraction of
       what the jury awarded.
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