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Re: NIP letter received by company 28 days days after offence
By: FuzzyDuck Date: December 11, 2025, 2:22 pm
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[quote author=jshell97 link=topic=9119.msg102085#msg102085
date=1765483843]
[quote author=Southpaw82 link=topic=9119.msg102084#msg102084
date=1765483509]
If I was going to stick two fingers up at the cops (and forego
the chance of a course or fixed penalty) I’d want to see the V5C
myself. But you do you.
[/quote]
Obviously if I was going to appeal I would want to see it for
myself which i have already asked for, but the question I was
asking is if I have a strong case to appeal
[/quote]
You can't appeal a NIP, you would have to take it to court,
plead not guilty and raise the late NIP as a defence.
#Post#: 102091--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP letter received by company 28 days days after offence
By: andy_foster Date: December 11, 2025, 2:54 pm
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Next time you are in/with the van, check the glove box for
anything from the lease company, any text at the bottom of the
number plates and any stickers on the windows.
Not as definitive as the V5C, but might give an early heads-up.
If the V5C does materialise, what you need to check is that the
details (particularly the address) are correct and current, and
the issue date. The issue date can be found at the bottom of
page 2, after the Doc.Ref.No. Alternatively, the date the latest
V5C was issued can be found on the DVLA's website if you perform
a vehicle check. If the V5C was issued after the offence date,
then chances are the original NIP went elsewhere. If it was
issued before your company got the vehicle, that's pretty much
conclusive that your boss won't be showing you a V5C with their
name and address on.
As regards whether you have a viable defence - you said it was a
lease van, the timing of the NIP is consistent with that, and
what your company said is inconsistent with the other two,
Unless and until this V5C materialises, the answer is a flat no
(on the "late NIP" front at least).
#Post#: 102092--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP letter received by company 28 days days after offence
By: jshell97 Date: December 11, 2025, 4:15 pm
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[quote author=FuzzyDuck link=topic=9119.msg102088#msg102088
date=1765484520]
[quote author=jshell97 link=topic=9119.msg102085#msg102085
date=1765483843]
[quote author=Southpaw82 link=topic=9119.msg102084#msg102084
date=1765483509]
If I was going to stick two fingers up at the cops (and forego
the chance of a course or fixed penalty) I’d want to see the V5C
myself. But you do you.
[/quote]
Obviously if I was going to appeal I would want to see it for
myself which i have already asked for, but the question I was
asking is if I have a strong case to appeal
[/quote]
You can't appeal a NIP, you would have to take it to court,
plead not guilty and raise the late NIP as a defence.
[/quote]
So going to court with a late NIP as my defence, would you say
it’s gonna be 50/50 on the outcome cause the speed I was caught
at for a commercial van was quite high for the speed limit in
the zone or would this be disregarded in court. I’m trying to
weigh up my options I don’t really want the 3 points and fine
but at the same time don’t really wanna be hit with extra points
and a bigger fine for loosing in court if the grounds for my
defense isn’t strong enough
#Post#: 102093--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP letter received by company 28 days days after offence
By: jshell97 Date: December 11, 2025, 4:17 pm
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[quote author=andy_foster link=topic=9119.msg102091#msg102091
date=1765486458]
Next time you are in/with the van, check the glove box for
anything from the lease company, any text at the bottom of the
number plates and any stickers on the windows.
Not as definitive as the V5C, but might give an early heads-up.
If the V5C does materialise, what you need to check is that the
details (particularly the address) are correct and current, and
the issue date. The issue date can be found at the bottom of
page 2, after the Doc.Ref.No. Alternatively, the date the latest
V5C was issued can be found on the DVLA's website if you perform
a vehicle check. If the V5C was issued after the offence date,
then chances are the original NIP went elsewhere. If it was
issued before your company got the vehicle, that's pretty much
conclusive that your boss won't be showing you a V5C with their
name and address on.
As regards whether you have a viable defence - you said it was a
lease van, the timing of the NIP is consistent with that, and
what your company said is inconsistent with the other two,
Unless and until this V5C materialises, the answer is a flat no
(on the "late NIP" front at least).
[/quote]
Definitely no stickers under the plates or in the van or the
glove box, I’ve also asked both directors separately and have
both said the same thing, they are going to provide me with the
V5C tomorrow
#Post#: 102094--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP letter received by company 28 days days after offence
By: Southpaw82 Date: December 11, 2025, 4:25 pm
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Until you tell us whether the company is the RK or not there’s
no point in speculating.
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