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Civil Enforcement - Failed to obtain a permit - Becontree
Medical Centre
DIR By: CloverOverDover
Date: December 11, 2025, 8:32 am
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Hey guys, another former Pepipoo patron here.
Last Monday 01/12/2025 I was unwell and arranged to get a GP
appointment whose carpark is managed by Civil Enforcement. I was
aware that I would need to register my vehicle inside but on
entering the car park, which was full but for one space, I
maneuvered my car to reverse into the space and some a55h0le
drove into it behind me.
I was stuck, feeling unwell, panicked about he parking issue and
no where to go. I briefly parked my car directly in front of the
offending **** and went in to check in so as not to miss my
appointment with the intention of then registering the vehicle
and returning to my car to move it.
The receptionist grunted at me to use a wall-mounted electronic
check-in device which I did, but I noticed that some patients
were leaving and I wanted to grab their parking space so as not
to be a further obstruction. I went out, moved the car and came
in for my appointment. It was only on the way home I realised
that the device had not asked me for my vehicle details and I
then realised that while I had checked in, I hadn't registered
the vehicle.
The Parking Charge notice came in today quoting: 'Failed to
obtain a permit in accordance with the notified terms'.
I'm happy to upload the PCN along with a photo of the signage,
but in the first instance wondered if this could be appealed on
the basis that I can prove that I had an appointment and that
the company has not been financially impacted by my inadvertent
breaking of the contract.
The car park is free for patrons of the surgery (obviously on
the basis that they register). It was my understanding that it
was not lawful to seek such high penalty charges for these
breaches and that they can only charge for the lack of
remuneration caused by the infraction. I also thought that if I
could prove I was expected and not maliciously abusing the space
without justification, that it might be difficult to enforce the
charge.
Your thoughts. Happy to get an image of the signs if required.
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Re: Civil Enforcement - Failed to obtain a permit - Becontree
Medical Centre
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: December 11, 2025, 9:33 am
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Please show us the back of the notice. Civil Enforcement just
want your money and will not uphold an appeal along the grounds
you suggest. Your first port of call should be the GPs surgery.
#Post#: 102052--------------------------------------------------
Re: Civil Enforcement - Failed to obtain a permit - Becontree
Medical Centre
DIR By: jfollows
Date: December 11, 2025, 9:42 am
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--- Quote from: CloverOverDover link ---
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> The car park is free for patrons of the surgery (obviously on
the basis that they register). It was my understanding that it
was not lawful to seek such high penalty charges for these
breaches and that they can only charge for the lack of
remuneration caused by the infraction.
>
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The Supreme Court ruled the opposite in 2015, ie that it’s
lawful to charge without having to demonstrate an actual loss.
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Re: Civil Enforcement - Failed to obtain a permit - Becontree
Medical Centre
DIR By: CloverOverDover
Date: December 11, 2025, 9:56 am
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--- Quote from: DWMB2 link ---
>
> Please show us the back of the notice. Civil Enforcement just
want your money and will not uphold an appeal along the grounds
you suggest. Your first port of call should be the GPs surgery.
>
--- End Quote ---
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Re: Civil Enforcement - Failed to obtain a permit - Becontree
Medical Centre
DIR By: Brenda_R2
Date: December 11, 2025, 11:00 am
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--- Quote from: DWMB2 link ---
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>
> Your first port of call should be the GPs surgery.
>
>
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Seconded - my recent experience at the hands of private parking
companies confirms this 100% - within minutes of me emailing the
landowner and telling them to call their hounds off I received
not only an apology but confirmation the "fine" had been
cancelled.
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Re: Civil Enforcement - Failed to obtain a permit - Becontree
Medical Centre
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: December 11, 2025, 11:18 am
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How effective it is varies wildly depending on the landowner,
but trying costs nothing, so is nearly always a no-brainer.
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