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       Re: 2 PCN tickets issued by 2 different councils (Trafford and
       Salford) for the 1 offence
   DIR By: moscva2008
       Date: December 12, 2025, 5:28 pm
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       I've also just noticed that the light over the Clearway sign on
       picture 5 isn't illuminated.
       #Post#: 102251--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2 PCN tickets issued by 2 different councils (Trafford and
       Salford) for the 1 offence
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: December 12, 2025, 5:58 pm
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       Sorry, but none of the points you have made about signs are
       valid. Motorists are under a duty to look out for and obey
       traffic signs. The sign is clear, and in a well lit area.
       Clearways don't need to have red lines, just signs at regular
       intervals.
       HOwever, with just this one sign, I think the council could be
       considered to not have put in adequate signage to indicate the
       restriction. This is a very busy, indeed heavily trafficked road
       with two lanes each way over the bridge, so it would be very
       easy to miss this one sign, especially with HGV and bus traffic,
       and there is nothing on the road like double red lines to show
       there is a restriction.
       So I suggest you submit reps on the lines of what you have told
       us about your regular previous parking here, and not seeing the
       single sign on the two lane approach over the bridge that tells
       a motorist it is a Red Route, and make sure you empahsise the
       absence of red lines which you would expect a Red Route would
       have. Why call it a Red Route if there is nothing red to
       indicate No Stopping !
       #Post#: 102255--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2 PCN tickets issued by 2 different councils (Trafford and
       Salford) for the 1 offence
   DIR By: moscva2008
       Date: December 12, 2025, 6:27 pm
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       Just to clarify, the side of the road that I parked on is 4
       lanes of traffic. The opposite carriageway is on the parallel
       red bridge and is 2 lanes wide. And you're correct,  it is a
       very busy stretch of road, especially on matchdays.
       All your other points are noted for my reps....thanks.
       #Post#: 102266--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2 PCN tickets issued by 2 different councils (Trafford and
       Salford) for the 1 offence
   DIR By: CharlieVictor33
       Date: December 13, 2025, 2:32 am
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       If you look at the aerial photo
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       there are cars parked
       on the bridge like you were so that could support that you
       weren't aware it had changed.
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       Re: 2 PCN tickets issued by 2 different councils (Trafford and
       Salford) for the 1 offence
   DIR By: moscva2008
       Date: December 30, 2025, 1:28 pm
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       An update regarding this.
       I simply emailed both Councils with a 2 liner ,saying I'd
       received a ticket off each of them for the same offence.
       They've been so kind as to cancel their respective tickets
       without me having to challenge them further as I had been
       dreading, which is very kind of them  ;D
       Thanks to all who offered advice/help.
       A Happy PCN free 2026 to all
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       Re: 2 PCN tickets issued by 2 different councils (Trafford and
       Salford) for the 1 offence
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: December 30, 2025, 2:09 pm
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       Well done !! I certainly didn't expect both to be cancelled.
       Maybe a teeny-weeny bit of the Christmas Spirit has wafted into
       their parking departments.
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       Re: 2 PCN tickets issued by 2 different councils (Trafford and
       Salford) for the 1 offence
   DIR By: moscva2008
       Date: December 30, 2025, 2:54 pm
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       Yes - an unexpected but pleasant surprise. Trafford Council
       aren't normally that generous so I'll take it. The relief is
       more that I now don't have all the admin surrounding the
       challenge, which I'm sure a lot on here will relate to.
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