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Waltham Forest code 31 entering and stopping in a box junction
Chingford Road E17
DIR By: ellgeered
Date: December 8, 2025, 7:31 am
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I wonder if anyone could help/ advise. I received a PCN for
entering & stopping in a box junction when prohibited. I was
turning right onto the road from a side road (which I thought
was a reason you were allowed to be in a box junction, but may
have this wrong). There was no traffic coming towards me from my
right, and I pulled out to turn right into the queue of traffic.
I must have been in the box junction all of 20 seconds while
cars to moved forwards, and didn’t hold any traffic up. Anything
I can do/ grounds to
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Re: Waltham Forest code 31 entering and stopping in a box
junction Chingford Road E17
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: December 8, 2025, 8:32 am
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The offence is having to stop due to the presence of stationary
vehicles
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Re: Waltham Forest code 31 entering and stopping in a box
junction Chingford Road E17
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: December 8, 2025, 8:37 am
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For meaningful advice we need to see the PCN so please help by
having a read of
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and post up here
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for posting images.
Wherever possible, use the BBCode.)
all sides of the PCN (only redact yr name & address - leave
everything else in),
any council photos/video,(the video is the evidence),
and
a GSV link to the location.
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Re: Waltham Forest code 31 entering and stopping in a box
junction Chingford Road E17
DIR By: ellgeered
Date: December 8, 2025, 2:05 pm
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Thank you. I had read the initial advice but the link to the PCN
hadn’t copied. I think it is there now…
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Re: Waltham Forest code 31 entering and stopping in a box
junction Chingford Road E17
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: December 8, 2025, 2:51 pm
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An adjudicator will say this is a contravention but probably
express sympathy on difficulty of turning right there.
Is my view.
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Re: Waltham Forest code 31 entering and stopping in a box
junction Chingford Road E17
DIR By: mickR
Date: December 9, 2025, 5:52 am
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woukd this not be covered by the right turn exemption? the
vehicle in front was also turning right but failed to complete
its manoeuvre.
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Re: Waltham Forest code 31 entering and stopping in a box
junction Chingford Road E17
DIR By: ellgeered
Date: December 9, 2025, 12:04 pm
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This is what I thought, but not sure how to appeal
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Re: Waltham Forest code 31 entering and stopping in a box
junction Chingford Road E17
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: December 9, 2025, 5:04 pm
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From the law (below) it does seem that you are not in
contravention but my view is it wasn't designed for this type of
layout.
If it were there is nothing stopping someone driving into and
blocking the entire lane while the lane going the other way you
want to turn right into is in gridlock. And just staying there.
That's my reading but others may disagree.
(3) The prohibition in sub-paragraph (1) does not, in respect of
a box junction within sub-paragraph (6)(a) of the definition of
that expression, apply to a person who—
(a)causes a vehicle to enter the box junction for the purpose of
turning right; and
(b)stops the vehicle within the box junction for so long as the
vehicle is prevented from completing the right turn by an
oncoming vehicle or other vehicle which is stationary whilst
waiting to complete a right turn.
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