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Euro Car Parks PCN NtK windmill Lane Cheshunt Not Authorised
Park to Blue Badge Disabled Bay
DIR By: Bella54
Date: December 7, 2025, 6:48 am
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Hi again :)
Received this NtK last week.
Revisited the site, which is adjacent to a relatively new Tesco
express store (currently no Google street views)to try to gain
some clarity and ask the store manager to cancel the PCN.
It seems the adjacent parking is run by Euro Car parks which has
various parking bays including one Blue Badge holders bay which
is where the vehicle was parked, with Blue badges visible and
correctly displayed, as the store was being visited for working
purposes.
After discussing the matter with the stores team leader and
leaving NTK telephone contact details for the store manager to
discuss cancelling the PCN with, (no reply or contact yet &
don't think they'll bother to address it :-\ ) it seems the
site is not currently owned by Tesco and they have no reach to
cancel the PCN's and have even had staff and other customers
being caught in this same costly predicament since the store
opened. :'(
Is this a POPLA appeal situation? and what date do we need to
send the Appeal by?
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Re: Euro Car Parks PCN NtK windmill Lane Cheshunt Not Authorised
Park to Blue Badge Disabled Bay
DIR By: jfollows
Date: December 7, 2025, 9:36 am
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I can’t read the notice you have posted, it’s not high enough
resolution for me to be able to read anything.
Oh, there’s a higher resolution option which works. Please
ignore my post.
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Re: Euro Car Parks PCN NtK windmill Lane Cheshunt Not Authorised
Park to Blue Badge Disabled Bay
DIR By: Brenda_R2
Date: December 7, 2025, 11:01 am
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--- Quote from: Bella54 link ---
>
> Hi again :)
>
> Received this NtK last week.
>
> Revisited the site, which is adjacent to a relatively new
Tesco express store (currently no Google street views)to try to
gain some clarity and ask the store manager to cancel the PCN.
>
> It seems the adjacent parking is run by Euro Car parks which
has various parking bays including one Blue Badge holders bay
which is where the vehicle was parked, with Blue badges visible
and correctly displayed, as the store was being visited for
working purposes.
>
> After discussing the matter with the stores team leader and
leaving NTK telephone contact details for the store manager to
discuss cancelling the PCN with, (no reply or contact yet &
don't think they'll bother to address it :-\ ) it seems the
site is not currently owned by Tesco and they have no reach to
cancel the PCN's and have even had staff and other customers
being caught in this same costly predicament since the store
opened. :'(
>
> Is this a POPLA appeal situation? and what date do we need to
send the Appeal by?
>
>
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>
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From the knowledge I have gleaned here recently from other much
wiser posters, the notice is POFA deficient so can be easily
defended if you do NOT reveal the driver (here, on Facebook,
Tiktok, Twitter, anywhere).
But please wait for the more knowledgeable posters here to give
you more substantive advice :)
#Post#: 101468--------------------------------------------------
Re: Euro Car Parks PCN NtK windmill Lane Cheshunt Not Authorised
Park to Blue Badge Disabled Bay
DIR By: b789
Date: December 8, 2025, 8:03 am
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Can you get a photo of the signs with the actual terms of
parking on them? According to the Notice to Keeper (NtK), the
alleged contravention is that the vehicle was not authorised to
"park". Very often, a "no unauthorised parking" sign is not
correctly worded to be able to form a contract with the driver.
However, the NtK is not fully compliant with ALL the
requirements of PoFA 2012 to be able to hold the Keeper liable
if the driver is not identified.
No initial appeal will ever succeed and in these cases, POPLA is
pretty useless. Where it will be concluded, if a POPLA appeal is
unsuccessful (likely), is after they get DCB Legal to issue a
county court claim for debt and it is defended with our template
defence. In due course, it would either be struck out or
discontinued (greater than 99.9% certainty).
Try and find out who the landowner of the car park is and get
them to get it canceled. That is Plan A. Plan B is the
following: There is no legal obligation on the known keeper (the
recipient of the Notice to Keeper (NtK)) to reveal the identity
of the unknown driver and no inference or assumptions can be
made.
The NtK is not compliant with all the requirements of PoFA which
means that if the unknown driver is not identified, they cannot
transfer liability for the charge from the unknown driver to the
known keeper.
Use the following as your appeal. No need to embellish or remove
anything from it:
--- Quote ---
> I am the keeper of the vehicle and I dispute your 'parking
charge'. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I
will be making a complaint about your predatory conduct to your
client landowner.
>
> As your Notice to Keeper (NtK) does not fully comply with ALL
the requirements of PoFA 2012, you are unable to hold the keeper
of the vehicle liable for the charge. Partial or even
substantial compliance is not sufficient. There will be no
admission as to who was driving and no inference or assumptions
can be drawn. ECP has relied on contract law allegations of
breach against the driver only.
>
> The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have
been the driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation
of the law of agency. Your NtK can only hold the driver liable.
ECP have no hope at POPLA, so you are urged to save us both a
complete waste of time and cancel the PCN.
--- End Quote ---
Plan C will be a POPLA appeal and Plan C is the guaranteed win
explained above.
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Re: Euro Car Parks PCN NtK windmill Lane Cheshunt Not Authorised
Park to Blue Badge Disabled Bay
DIR By: Bella54
Date: December 8, 2025, 4:40 pm
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Thank you b789.
we'll get some pic's from site next time we're over that way &
post them here.
Re: Plan A-finding out who the Landowner is, We'd be interested
to get this information as the store was of no help, We've even
considered getting in touch with Tesco Head Office and raising a
complaint with them directly, but wondered if the land registry
would divulge it, as the site is
new??
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We'll make a start on Plan B in the mean time.
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Re: Euro Car Parks PCN NtK windmill Lane Cheshunt Not Authorised
Park to Blue Badge Disabled Bay
DIR By: Mustek
Date: December 9, 2025, 3:15 am
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The site is too new to check against Land Registry/Ordnance
Survey, all I'm getting is the railway-owned buildings on the
"Railway Approach" street on that postcode and a few retail
units.
Quick GMaps check shows that the parking that butts up against
the Tesco Express is a residents-only carpark, so the land-owner
will probably just fob you off if you can find who it is.
Gmaps link
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