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Re: Caught both ways (HGV)
By: jfollows Date: December 7, 2025, 5:32 am
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A course will be offered up to and including 42mph so you are
fine. Just.
HTML https://library.college.police.uk/docs/NPCC/Speed-enforcement-disposal-guidance-2025.pdf
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Re: Caught both ways (HGV)
By: roythebus Date: December 7, 2025, 6:03 am
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This might give you a clue:
HTML https://www.google.com/maps/@54.9793721,-2.8786931,3a,75y,90h,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sKZRVoN-NmbBvyYD_LTXhrA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D0%26panoid%3DKZRVoN-NmbBvyYD_LTXhrA%26yaw%3D90!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MTIwMi4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
I'm surprised that as an HGV driver you are not aware of what a
restricted road is. Have you ever attended the driver CPC course
that we have to do every five years? That is supposed to keep
drivers updated on road traffic laws and other driving hints and
tips. Plus, if you get more points, a visit to the local Traffic
commissioner without tea and choccy biscuits may well be on the
cards.
Having said that, I can't see any 30 repeater signs or a system
of street lighting along that road. I suggest if you go that way
agin have a look, that would probably be the only defence.
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Re: Caught both ways (HGV)
By: 666 Date: December 7, 2025, 6:23 am
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[quote author=roythebus link=topic=9057.msg101333#msg101333
date=1765109027]
This might give you a clue:
HTML https://www.google.com/maps/@54.9793721,-2.8786931,3a,75y,90h,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sKZRVoN-NmbBvyYD_LTXhrA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D0%26panoid%3DKZRVoN-NmbBvyYD_LTXhrA%26yaw%3D90!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MTIwMi4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
I'm surprised that as an HGV driver you are not aware of what a
restricted road is. Have you ever attended the driver CPC course
that we have to do every five years? That is supposed to keep
drivers updated on road traffic laws and other driving hints and
tips.
[/quote]
The restricted road limit has been in place since 1935. Updating
seems superfluous.
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Re: Caught both ways (HGV)
By: Dave Green Date: December 7, 2025, 6:28 am
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There are at least 4 street lights in the section of road
concerned but on Google earth, it's hard to calculate the exact
distance between them to see if they are compliant with the
minimum legal spacing requirement for a restricted road without
repeaters.
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Re: Caught both ways (HGV)
By: NewJudge Date: December 7, 2025, 6:37 am
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I have heard that some police forces do not offer courses for
speeding when the vehicle involved is an HGV.
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Re: Caught both ways (HGV)
By: roythebus Date: December 7, 2025, 6:53 am
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I seem to remember street lights must be every 180m/200 yards.
We had lots of discussions about this when I joined pepipoo back
in the late 2000's.
When I mentioned updating in my earlier thread the driver CPC
course which, for those who are not aware, is 35 hours
compulsory training for bus and lorry drivers that has to be
undertaken over a five year period. Designed to improve driving
standards and update professional drivers on road traffic law,
H&S, economic driving etc. The driver must carry his CPC card at
all times when driving a lorry or bus.Fine up to £1000 for not
carying the card!
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Re: Caught both ways (HGV)
By: Sillygoose Date: December 7, 2025, 12:29 pm
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[quote author=NewJudge link=topic=9057.msg101337#msg101337
date=1765111024]
I have heard that some police forces do not offer courses for
speeding when the vehicle involved is an HGV.
[/quote]
It's going to be a hard lesson learned if that is how Cumbria
police operate.
I've been reading up on the possible outcome of my crimes and I
forgot times have changed so instead of worst case scenario of 3
points and £100 fines each way it's now: 4-6 points or 7-28 days
disqualification & a fine of 75-125% of a weeks wage.
If people are suggesting I have a chance of contesting this then
I'm all ears.
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Re: Caught both ways (HGV)
By: JustLoveCars Date: December 7, 2025, 1:16 pm
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I see no reason why fixed penalties wouldn’t be offered in the
worst case (time permitting).
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Re: Caught both ways (HGV)
By: andy_foster Date: December 7, 2025, 1:27 pm
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[quote author=JustLoveCars link=topic=9057.msg101374#msg101374
date=1765135007]
I see no reason why fixed penalties wouldn’t be offered in the
worst case (time permitting).
[/quote]
If the OP has taken the trouble to do some research, then rather
than showing our ignorance by arguing with him, we should thank
him for enlightening us. I'm just off to update the
super-seekrit "READ THIS FIRST" post.
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Re: Caught both ways (HGV)
By: Sillygoose Date: December 7, 2025, 1:33 pm
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[quote author=andy_foster link=topic=9057.msg101376#msg101376
date=1765135640]
[quote author=JustLoveCars link=topic=9057.msg101374#msg101374
date=1765135007]
I see no reason why fixed penalties wouldn’t be offered in the
worst case (time permitting).
[/quote]
If the OP has taken the trouble to do some research, then rather
than showing our ignorance by arguing with him, we should thank
him for enlightening us. I'm just off to update the
super-seekrit "READ THIS FIRST" post.
[/quote]
No one is arguing here. As for doing my research, sometimes it's
best to get help from people with experience, hakuna ya tatas.
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