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Re: Caught both ways (HGV)
DIR By: jfollows
Date: December 7, 2025, 5:32 am
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A course will be offered up to and including 42mph so you are
fine. Just.
HTML https://library.college.police.uk/docs/NPCC/Speed-enforcement-disposal-guidance-2025.pdf
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Re: Caught both ways (HGV)
DIR By: roythebus
Date: December 7, 2025, 6:03 am
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This might give you a clue:
HTML https://www.google.com/maps/@54.9793721,-2.8786931,3a,75y,90h,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sKZRVoN-NmbBvyYD_LTXhrA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D0%26panoid%3DKZRVoN-NmbBvyYD_LTXhrA%26yaw%3D90!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MTIwMi4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
I'm surprised that as an HGV driver you are not aware of what a
restricted road is. Have you ever attended the driver CPC course
that we have to do every five years? That is supposed to keep
drivers updated on road traffic laws and other driving hints and
tips. Plus, if you get more points, a visit to the local Traffic
commissioner without tea and choccy biscuits may well be on the
cards.
Having said that, I can't see any 30 repeater signs or a system
of street lighting along that road. I suggest if you go that way
agin have a look, that would probably be the only defence.
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Re: Caught both ways (HGV)
DIR By: 666
Date: December 7, 2025, 6:23 am
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--- Quote from: roythebus link ---
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> This might give you a clue:
HTML https://www.google.com/maps/@54.9793721,-2.8786931,3a,75y,90h,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sKZRVoN-NmbBvyYD_LTXhrA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D0%26panoid%3DKZRVoN-NmbBvyYD_LTXhrA%26yaw%3D90!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MTIwMi4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
>
> I'm surprised that as an HGV driver you are not aware of what
a restricted road is. Have you ever attended the driver CPC
course that we have to do every five years? That is supposed to
keep drivers updated on road traffic laws and other driving
hints and tips.
>
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The restricted road limit has been in place since 1935. Updating
seems superfluous.
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Re: Caught both ways (HGV)
DIR By: Dave Green
Date: December 7, 2025, 6:28 am
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There are at least 4 street lights in the section of road
concerned but on Google earth, it's hard to calculate the exact
distance between them to see if they are compliant with the
minimum legal spacing requirement for a restricted road without
repeaters.
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Re: Caught both ways (HGV)
DIR By: NewJudge
Date: December 7, 2025, 6:37 am
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I have heard that some police forces do not offer courses for
speeding when the vehicle involved is an HGV.
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Re: Caught both ways (HGV)
DIR By: roythebus
Date: December 7, 2025, 6:53 am
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I seem to remember street lights must be every 180m/200 yards.
We had lots of discussions about this when I joined pepipoo back
in the late 2000's.
When I mentioned updating in my earlier thread the driver CPC
course which, for those who are not aware, is 35 hours
compulsory training for bus and lorry drivers that has to be
undertaken over a five year period. Designed to improve driving
standards and update professional drivers on road traffic law,
H&S, economic driving etc. The driver must carry his CPC card at
all times when driving a lorry or bus.Fine up to £1000 for not
carying the card!
#Post#: 101370--------------------------------------------------
Re: Caught both ways (HGV)
DIR By: Sillygoose
Date: December 7, 2025, 12:29 pm
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--- Quote from: NewJudge link ---
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> I have heard that some police forces do not offer courses for
speeding when the vehicle involved is an HGV.
>
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It's going to be a hard lesson learned if that is how Cumbria
police operate.
I've been reading up on the possible outcome of my crimes and I
forgot times have changed so instead of worst case scenario of 3
points and £100 fines each way it's now: 4-6 points or 7-28 days
disqualification & a fine of 75-125% of a weeks wage.
If people are suggesting I have a chance of contesting this then
I'm all ears.
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Re: Caught both ways (HGV)
DIR By: JustLoveCars
Date: December 7, 2025, 1:16 pm
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I see no reason why fixed penalties wouldn’t be offered in the
worst case (time permitting).
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Re: Caught both ways (HGV)
DIR By: andy_foster
Date: December 7, 2025, 1:27 pm
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--- Quote from: JustLoveCars link ---
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> I see no reason why fixed penalties wouldn’t be offered in the
worst case (time permitting).
>
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If the OP has taken the trouble to do some research, then rather
than showing our ignorance by arguing with him, we should thank
him for enlightening us. I'm just off to update the
super-seekrit "READ THIS FIRST" post.
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Re: Caught both ways (HGV)
DIR By: Sillygoose
Date: December 7, 2025, 1:33 pm
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--- Quote from: andy_foster link ---
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> [quote author=JustLoveCars link=topic=9057.msg101374#msg101374
date=1765135007]
> I see no reason why fixed penalties wouldn’t be offered in the
worst case (time permitting).
>
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If the OP has taken the trouble to do some research, then rather
than showing our ignorance by arguing with him, we should thank
him for enlightening us. I'm just off to update the
super-seekrit "READ THIS FIRST" post.
[/quote]
No one is arguing here. As for doing my research, sometimes it's
best to get help from people with experience, hakuna ya tatas.
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