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       Caught both ways (HGV)
       By: Sillygoose Date: December 6, 2025, 10:47 am
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       Speed limit 30mph
       Speed captured one way 49mph
       Speed captured the other way 42mph
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       I did not see the camera as it is on the telegraph pole before
       the buildings on the right (towards Longtown).
       #Post#: 101283--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Caught both ways (HGV)
       By: FuzzyDuck Date: December 6, 2025, 10:49 am
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       Do you have question?
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       Re: Caught both ways (HGV)
       By: Sillygoose Date: December 6, 2025, 10:51 am
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       Yes, is there anything I can do to argue my case.
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       Re: Caught both ways (HGV)
       By: 666 Date: December 6, 2025, 11:20 am
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       [quote author=Sillygoose link=topic=9057.msg101284#msg101284
       date=1765039919]
       Yes, is there anything I can do to argue my case.
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       Give us a clue- what case do you think you have to argue? There
       is no requirement for a camera to be visible.
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       Re: Caught both ways (HGV)
       By: JustLoveCars Date: December 6, 2025, 12:26 pm
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       I'd note there are 30mph terminal signs on entering the area
       from both directions but there (if GSV is correct) are no
       repeaters and no system of streetlighting (which would make it a
       restricted road).
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       Re: Caught both ways (HGV)
       By: Sillygoose Date: December 6, 2025, 12:36 pm
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       [quote author=JustLoveCars link=topic=9057.msg101298#msg101298
       date=1765045568]
       I'd note there are 30mph terminal signs on entering the area
       from both directions but there (if GSV is correct) are no
       repeaters and no system of streetlighting (which would make it a
       restricted road).
       [/quote]
       What do you mean by restricted road? As far as I'm aware there
       are no restrictions except the speed limit.
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       Re: Caught both ways (HGV)
       By: JustLoveCars Date: December 6, 2025, 3:42 pm
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       As a HGV driver that's slightly worrying that you do not know
       what a restricted road is… (a road that has a limit of 30mph
       because of a system of street lighting less than 200 yards apart
       unless there are signs to the contrary)
       But this road is not one.  So the terminal signs set the limit
       upon entry but there are no repeaters to maintain it.  But
       there's no strict distance requirement for the frequency of
       repeaters.  I haven't measured the distance between the gateways
       but I guess you may struggle to show the limit is not adequately
       signed.
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       Re: Caught both ways (HGV)
       By: Sillygoose Date: December 6, 2025, 3:51 pm
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       [quote author=JustLoveCars link=topic=9057.msg101312#msg101312
       date=1765057329]
       As a HGV driver that's slightly worrying that you do not know
       what a restricted road is… (a road that has a limit of 30mph
       because of a system of street lighting less than 200 yards apart
       unless there are signs to the contrary)
       But this road is not one.  So the terminal signs set the limit
       upon entry but there are no repeaters to maintain it.  But
       there's no strict distance requirement for the frequency of
       repeaters.  I haven't measured the distance between the gateways
       but I guess you may struggle to show the limit is not adequately
       signed.
       [/quote]
       Unfortunately I can't know everything but thank you for
       explaining it.
       Is 42mph within the limits allowed for a SAC or am I better off
       to just expect that I'm getting 6 points?
       Hoping for the best outcome of 3pts and SAC (and a lesson
       learned).
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       Re: Caught both ways (HGV)
       By: JustLoveCars Date: December 6, 2025, 4:50 pm
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       Yes, one should qualify for a course.
       #Post#: 101318--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Caught both ways (HGV)
       By: Sillygoose Date: December 6, 2025, 5:36 pm
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       [quote author=JustLoveCars link=topic=9057.msg101317#msg101317
       date=1765061442]
       Yes, one should qualify for a course.
       [/quote]
       Thanks for your help.
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