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       UKPS Parking PCN. Coventry RFC, Butts Arena
   DIR By: nickj32
       Date: December 5, 2025, 2:16 am
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       The driver (my partner) entered the car park to turn and drop a
       passenger.
       Total time in the carpark <1min as show by images, so well
       trodden path of stopping not constituting parking
       Have researched posts and the rugby club show no interest in
       intervening, nor local MP
       Person in hi viz evident made no attempt to warn etc
       PCN received 29/11 & seems to have new concept of a Red Route
       (in a private carpark) as a scare tactic.
       I intend to respond with below or similar, please advise. Many
       thanks
       I am the keeper of the vehicle and I dispute your 'parking
       charge'. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I
       will be making a complaint about your predatory conduct to your
       client landowner.
       As your Notice to Keeper (NtK) does not fully comply with ALL
       the requirements of PoFA 2012, you are unable to hold the keeper
       of the vehicle liable for the charge. Partial or even
       substantial compliance is not sufficient. There will be no
       admission as to who was driving and no inference or assumptions
       can be drawn. UKPS has relied on contract law allegations of
       breach against the driver only.
       The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have
       been the driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation
       of the law of agency. Your NtK can only hold the driver liable.
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       Re: UKPS Parking PCN. Coventry RFC, Butts Arena
   DIR By: b789
       Date: December 5, 2025, 12:38 pm
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       They are really getting desperate with their claims. Their
       Notice to Keeper (NtK) is not PoFA compliant so no Keeper
       liability. No contract could be formed with prohibitive signage.
       No evidence of a contract being formed beyond the minimum
       consideration period, and I could go on, but I really can't be
       bothered.
       Whilst they label this area as a “red route”, this has no
       statutory meaning on private land and is simply their own
       terminology, which is open to challenge. They can call it a
       "polka-dot route" as far as the law is concerned.
       Your appeal is perfectly valid and, as any initial appeal is
       futile, don't spend any more effort on it. As this
       bottom-dwelling firm is an IPC member, don't pin much hope on
       the IAS. We'll give you a good IAS appeal, just because we love
       to wind them up by making them have to jump through the hoops.
       Whilst this is most likely going to end up as a county court
       claim, it will never reach a hearing and will either be struck
       out or discontinued. You just have to follow the advice we give
       you here.
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