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       #Post#: 101036--------------------------------------------------
       Car rental company claims vehicle was damaged whilst under my po
       ssession 
       By: robbieuk Date: December 4, 2025, 12:58 pm
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       Hi All,
       Hopefully someone will be able to offer some advice of the best
       course of action to do in my situation.
       Left my car in garage on Saturday. Unfortunately, we really
       needed a car, so decided to rent one. As Enterprise was closing
       for the weekend, I have turned to a local car rental company
       which I have used in the past when rented their vans on few
       occasions. As I had no issues in the past, I did not expect to
       have any this time either. How wrong I was…
       My missus and I went to their office, gave all the required
       paperwork, paid money for the rent and additional driver, also
       left a £250 deposit. They also said there is a £1,000 excess
       should I get involved in an accident.
       At no time was I offered any additional insurance to minimise
       the excess.
       Once the payment was completed, car rental employee went outside
       with us to do the vehicle inspection. We walked around the car,
       made notes of scraped alloys and scraped mirror covers but there
       was no other visible damage to the car. Signed the paperwork and
       off we went.
       As I was doing a day shift on Wednesday, my missus went to drop
       the car and then to pick up our car from the garage. On arrival
       to rental place she went to the office and same rental employee
       came out to check the car. Within a minute alarm bells started
       ringing as this time he started crawling around the car on his
       knees checking the damage underneath the car. Started from the
       back of the car , went round and within a minute or two, as if
       magic, he shouted out – oh, this wasn’t here before!” Missus was
       perplexed as there was no damage seen from the standing position
       and she asked what is he talking about. Turns out there is some
       sort of damage to the underneath of the front bumper. Not only
       that! He then claimed that it is clear and obvious that the
       whole bumper is dislodged from it’s position.
       The employee then went back to the office and said to missus
       that we owe them £1,000 excess. Missus phoned me in tears
       explaining me what has happened. I phoned the office and
       recognised by voice the same guy that gave me a car. He would
       not agree that he has done a different check than the one when
       we picked up a car. He claimed he was checking underneath the
       car first time as how otherwise he would have spotted the damage
       to alloys.
       Eventually he passed a phone to his manager who was not budging
       at all. I told her in no certain terms that we are not going to
       be scammed and I will seek solicitors help, will tell the story
       on their social media too and will not pay the £1,000 excess as
       we do not agree with a damage and finished the phone call.
       I then phoned my missus who started telling me that they keep
       giving her some forms to sign but she does not know what she is
       countersigning. She put me on loudspeaker and I could her the
       manager telling her this is the paperwork to acknowledge that
       car is being returned to the office as without signed paperwork
       they cannot update the system that car has been returned.
       I asked my missus to write ‘’Do not agree with any damage’’
       before leaving a signature which she did. My missus later told
       me that as she did that, manager furiously grabbed papers from
       her hands, so missus could not finish writing on the second
       form, ripped the copy for her and shouted that we have your
       husbands account details, and you will pay for this.
       When I got back home I looked at the form which was a vehicle
       return form. But what they didn’t tell my missus that in the
       middle of the form they wrote that customer acknowledges and
       accepts the damage done to the front bumper. (exact wording to
       be updated when I get back home tonight, writing this at work).
       I will also show pictures of the damage that they found.
       It really bugs me that I have put my faith in them from my
       previous times and they are trying to play us like that.
       Thinking to the past I am 100% sure they have not offered any
       additional premium insurance to cover excess if anything would
       happen. Everything is so fishy about this as I know we haven't
       done any damage to the car, we were so, so careful with it.
       I am bit lost at this moment. They have my bank details but
       there is no £1,000 in there so they can’t take money from there.
       However I want to deal with this matter that I would have no
       issues in the longer run. I was thinking to raise an issue with
       the police and then request a copy of CCTV footage which would
       clearly show how differently vehicle was checked on both
       occasions. Is there anything else that I could currently do? Any
       advice would be greatly appreciated.
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       #Post#: 101037--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Car rental company claims vehicle was damaged whilst under m
       y possession 
       By: Southpaw82 Date: December 4, 2025, 1:25 pm
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       And what exactly do you expect the police to do?
       #Post#: 101047--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Car rental company claims vehicle was damaged whilst under m
       y possession 
       By: mickR Date: December 4, 2025, 2:54 pm
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       extortion?
       #Post#: 101061--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Car rental company claims vehicle was damaged whilst under m
       y possession 
       By: Southpaw82 Date: December 4, 2025, 5:05 pm
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       [quote author=mickR link=topic=9032.msg101047#msg101047
       date=1764881647]
       extortion?
       [/quote]
       I mean, it’s a word…
       #Post#: 101064--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Car rental company claims vehicle was damaged whilst under m
       y possession 
       By: robbieuk Date: December 5, 2025, 1:47 am
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       [quote author=Southpaw82 link=topic=9032.msg101037#msg101037
       date=1764876307]
       And what exactly do you expect the police to do?
       [/quote]
       I suspect they rental company will be reluctant to issue a CCTV
       footage, however with a police report they would be more
       inclined to do that?
       #Post#: 101067--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Car rental company claims vehicle was damaged whilst under m
       y possession 
       By: Southpaw82 Date: December 5, 2025, 2:51 am
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       [quote author=robbieuk link=topic=9032.msg101064#msg101064
       date=1764920878]
       [quote author=Southpaw82 link=topic=9032.msg101037#msg101037
       date=1764876307]
       And what exactly do you expect the police to do?
       [/quote]
       I suspect they rental company will be reluctant to issue a CCTV
       footage, however with a police report they would be more
       inclined to do that?
       [/quote]
       If the police think a crime has been committed and if they
       investigate then they might ask for CCTV footage. The company
       might comply. Or it might have been deleted. Who knows.
       #Post#: 101077--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Car rental company claims vehicle was damaged whilst under m
       y possession 
       By: DWMB2 Date: December 5, 2025, 3:59 am
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       Did you take any photos of the car (and those areas) before your
       hire period?
       The photos you have shown us seem to contain damage that
       wouldn't require "crawling around the car" on your knees to
       spot, so if you took photos beforehand if you're lucky this
       damage might be visible in some of them...
       #Post#: 101083--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Car rental company claims vehicle was damaged whilst under m
       y possession 
       By: robbieuk Date: December 5, 2025, 4:26 am
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       [quote author=DWMB2 link=topic=9032.msg101077#msg101077
       date=1764928759]
       Did you take any photos of the car (and those areas) before your
       hire period?
       The photos you have shown us seem to contain damage that
       wouldn't require "crawling around the car" on your knees to
       spot, so if you took photos beforehand if you're lucky this
       damage might be visible in some of them...
       [/quote]
       I didn't take any photos at all prior to renting. In the past,
       whenever renting in europe, I always did. Have no idea how I
       failed to do this time.... Was it element of trust having rented
       from them in the past and not expecting this practise to happen
       in UK, not sure.
       I know the photos are not the best and hard to say. But the
       damage was impossible to see from standing up level. Missus had
       to squat down to take the picture of the bumper as it is bottom
       of the bumper. The bumper itself is angled and the bottom of it
       even more angled towards underneath the car.
       #Post#: 101095--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Car rental company claims vehicle was damaged whilst under m
       y possession 
       By: robbieuk Date: December 5, 2025, 5:18 am
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       I took this image of the car when I needed registration number
       to pay for Dartford Crossing. There is no way you would be able
       to see the damage unless you had to squat and check form
       underneath.
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       #Post#: 101388--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Car rental company claims vehicle was damaged whilst under m
       y possession 
       By: mickR Date: December 7, 2025, 3:58 pm
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       can the hire company show evidence there wasn't any previous
       damage to that area?
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