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       #Post#: 103487--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Letter Before Claim from Moorside Legal (on behalf of
       Parking Control Management UK)
   DIR By: Snowynight
       Date: December 21, 2025, 3:28 pm
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       --- Quote from: Maximum Bob link ---
       >
       > I went on the ICO website Live chat for complaints and
       expressed concerns that the DPO email link at Moorside legal is
       not being monitored.  Not sure what action will be taken.
       > Also sent a recorded delivery letter to Moorsides registered
       address in Oldham..don't expect anything in return but its
       something that can be presented in court.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Hi [member=7614]Maximum Bob[/member], did you get any response
       at all?
       #Post#: 103509--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Letter Before Claim from Moorside Legal (on behalf of
       Parking Control Management UK)
   DIR By: b789
       Date: December 21, 2025, 5:51 pm
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       Nothing to do. The ball is in their court. It's Xmas week so
       probably nobody is at work. Why the impatience? This process is
       going to last many months.
       #Post#: 103603--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Letter Before Claim from Moorside Legal (on behalf of
       Parking Control Management UK)
   DIR By: Maximum Bob
       Date: December 22, 2025, 1:52 pm
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       [member=602]Snowynight[/member] Not had any response.
       #Post#: 104722--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Letter Before Claim from Moorside Legal (on behalf of
       Parking Control Management UK)
   DIR By: LoneStartState
       Date: January 6, 2026, 5:30 am
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       Just for additional information.
       litigationteam@moorsidelegal.co.uk seems to be active.  It at
       least gave an automated acknowledgement of receipt when tested
       at the end of this year while the help address still returns the
       automatic not monitored response.
       #Post#: 109639--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Letter Before Claim from Moorside Legal (on behalf of
       Parking Control Management UK)
   DIR By: Snowynight
       Date: February 12, 2026, 2:05 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       Hi,
       Finally received a response yesterday from
       noreply@moorsidelegal.co.uk below, and the original PCN with
       some photos and the appeal were also attached in the email. What
       can we do next?
       "
       We write in relation to the above matter.
       
       Moorside Legal acts on behalf of Alliance Parking as an
       external debt recovery agent for legal action. Communication
       between Moorside Legal and Alliance Parking typically relates to
       case progression, operational instructions, and status updates.
       These exchanges concern the management of the Parking Charge
       Notice (PCN) from a business‑to‑business standpoint.
       
       Because this communication does not contain your personal data
       nor does it identify you directly or indirectly, it does not
       fall within the scope of personal data as defined under the UK
       GDPR.
       
       Under the UK GDPR, organisations are required to disclose
       personal data, not operational records or internal
       communications. Any correspondence between Moorside Legal and
       Alliance Parking that relates purely to process, case
       management, or administrative instructions is considered
       business information, not personal data.
       
       As required under Article 15 of the UK GDPR and in line with
       ICO guidance, the purposes for which we process your personal
       data are to manage and enforce parking terms and conditions. The
       categories of personal data we hold include vehicle registration
       details, keeper details obtained from the DVLA, and
       correspondence history.
       
       Please be advised that the help@moorsidelegal.co.uk mailbox is
       not monitored. Accordingly, we advise that you register on our
       Customer Portal using the link below:
       🔗
  HTML https://portal.moorsidelegal.co.uk
       Should you choose not to utilise the Portal, please direct all
       future correspondence to dpo@apn.co.uk.
       
       Our Privacy Policy outlines where we collect personal data from
       and the lawful basis on which we may process it. You can read
       more about how and why we hold and process your personal data
       via the following link:
  HTML https://moorsidelegal.co.uk/privacy-policy/
       
       If you need any assistance, feel free to contact us on 0330 822
       9950.
       
       Please see the attached PCN, which was correctly issued in
       accordance with Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act
       2012. This legislation allows us to hold the registered keeper
       liable for the full outstanding balance if driver details are
       not provided.
       
       To view the supporting photographic evidence, kindly visit the
       link below and quote reference ******:
       🔗
  HTML https://www.pay-my-pcn.co.uk/live-3sc-user/
       
       By entering and parking the vehicle on our client's private
       land, you agreed to enter into a contract with our client and to
       be bound by the terms and conditions of that contract. The terms
       and conditions were clearly displayed in prominent places within
       the car park. Due to your failure to comply with the terms and
       conditions, our client has issued the PCN therefore if we are
       instructed to issue a claim the reason would be for Unpaid
       parking charges/breach of contract.
       
       You have already made representation to our client, who have
       responded accordingly. We cannot overturn their decision.
       
       In our client’s letter notifying you of the rejection of your
       appeal, you were advised of the option to escalate the matter to
       an Independent Adjudication Service administered by our client’s
       Accredited Trade Association. As your appeal was also rejected
       at that stage, we must inform you that all avenues of appeal
       have now been exhausted.
       
       Considering the evidence, we are satisfied that the PCN has
       been issued in line with industry standards and is compliant
       with the International Parking Community’s (IPC) code of
       practice. The signage of the car park also complies with the
       International Parking Community’s Code of Practice.
       
       Please be advised that the original amount of the PCN was
       £100.00. As outlined in the notice, a reduced amount of £60.00
       would have been accepted as full and final settlement if payment
       had been received within 14 days from the date of issue.
       Unfortunately, as no payment was received within that time
       frame, the opportunity to pay the reduced amount has now
       expired. As a result of continued non-payment and additional
       charges, the balance has increased and now stands at £170.00.
       
       The additional charge which has been levied on your Parking
       Charge of £70 is the amount set out in both the British Parking
       Association and International Parking Community Codes of
       Practice as the amount which may be added to a Parking Charge
       when a Parking Charge remains unpaid and when further recovery
       is required. Our client is a member of the International Parking
       Community which is a government approved Accredited Trade
       Association (ATA) for Private Parking. Our client adheres to the
       ATA’s Code of Practice. The £70 does not represent the cost of
       recovery but is a reasonable amount in relation to the Parking
       Charge amount, in order to encourage early payment of the
       Parking Charge without the need for debt recovery. It is a fair
       amount set by our client’s government-approved Accredited Trade
       Association Code of Practice. There are however also costs
       incurred by our client in relation to debt recovery services.
       
       It is unclear why you would need to inspect any agreement
       between our client and the landowner as you are not party to
       that agreement, nor could it aid your dispute or any potential
       defence.
       
       
       Please note that we will not be addressing any further
       correspondence related to disputes of the same nature, as we
       have already provided you with a response. However, should you
       wish to raise a new dispute, we will investigate the matter
       further and respond accordingly.
       
       We ask that you make the full payment of £170.00 within 7 days
       of receipt of this email.
       
       
       You can make payment in the following ways:
       • Contact us on 0330 822 9950 (our opening times are Monday-
       Friday 9:00- 17:00);
       • portal.moorsidelegal.co.uk - Login to our portal
       •
  HTML https://pay.moorside.legal
       - Quick Pay
       
       
       If you fail to respond or make payment, we may be instructed by
       our client to issue legal proceedings against you. This will
       incur further costs and fees that will be added to the
       outstanding balance. You may wish to seek independent legal
       advice.
       "
       ======
       They claimed "The terms and conditions were clearly displayed in
       prominent places within the car park" - but again as I appealed
       before it is not true:
       There is no entrance sign. And the only sign that appears to
       relate to the car park is tiny and practically hidden, not
       placed in close proximity (but about 25 feet away from the
       parking spaces), i.e., the tiny one on the building behind the
       trees and green space, not obvious at all. The font size is too
       small to be able to signify it relates to the car park. So
       motorists cannot be expected to read a sign that they did not
       see because of its distance from the car park and because it is
       obscured by a tree which had a lot more leaves on it when the
       PCN was issued compared to the picture they showed as evidence
       (there is only one taken by them in winter 2019 when tree leaves
       already fell off).
       #Post#: 110000--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Letter Before Claim from Moorside Legal (on behalf of
       Parking Control Management UK)
   DIR By: Snowynight
       Date: February 16, 2026, 5:35 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       Hi [member=26]b789[/member], could you please advise how I
       should respond? Thanks very much.
       --- Quote from: Snowynight link ---
       >
       > Hi,
       >
       > Finally received a response yesterday from
       noreply@moorsidelegal.co.uk below, and the original PCN with
       some photos and the appeal were also attached in the email. What
       can we do next?
       >
       > "
       > We write in relation to the above matter.
       >
       > Moorside Legal acts on behalf of Alliance Parking as an
       external debt recovery agent for legal action. Communication
       between Moorside Legal and Alliance Parking typically relates to
       case progression, operational instructions, and status updates.
       These exchanges concern the management of the Parking Charge
       Notice (PCN) from a business‑to‑business standpoint.
       >
       > Because this communication does not contain your personal data
       nor does it identify you directly or indirectly, it does not
       fall within the scope of personal data as defined under the UK
       GDPR.
       >
       > Under the UK GDPR, organisations are required to disclose
       personal data, not operational records or internal
       communications. Any correspondence between Moorside Legal and
       Alliance Parking that relates purely to process, case
       management, or administrative instructions is considered
       business information, not personal data.
       >
       > As required under Article 15 of the UK GDPR and in line with
       ICO guidance, the purposes for which we process your personal
       data are to manage and enforce parking terms and conditions. The
       categories of personal data we hold include vehicle registration
       details, keeper details obtained from the DVLA, and
       correspondence history.
       >
       > Please be advised that the help@moorsidelegal.co.uk mailbox is
       not monitored. Accordingly, we advise that you register on our
       Customer Portal using the link below:
       > 🔗
  HTML https://portal.moorsidelegal.co.uk
       > Should you choose not to utilise the Portal, please direct all
       future correspondence to dpo@apn.co.uk.
       >
       > Our Privacy Policy outlines where we collect personal data
       from and the lawful basis on which we may process it. You can
       read more about how and why we hold and process your personal
       data via the following link:
  HTML https://moorsidelegal.co.uk/privacy-policy/
       >
       > If you need any assistance, feel free to contact us on 0330
       822 9950.
       >
       > Please see the attached PCN, which was correctly issued in
       accordance with Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act
       2012. This legislation allows us to hold the registered keeper
       liable for the full outstanding balance if driver details are
       not provided.
       >
       > To view the supporting photographic evidence, kindly visit the
       link below and quote reference ******:
       > 🔗
  HTML https://www.pay-my-pcn.co.uk/live-3sc-user/
       >
       > By entering and parking the vehicle on our client's private
       land, you agreed to enter into a contract with our client and to
       be bound by the terms and conditions of that contract. The terms
       and conditions were clearly displayed in prominent places within
       the car park. Due to your failure to comply with the terms and
       conditions, our client has issued the PCN therefore if we are
       instructed to issue a claim the reason would be for Unpaid
       parking charges/breach of contract.
       >
       > You have already made representation to our client, who have
       responded accordingly. We cannot overturn their decision.
       >
       > In our client’s letter notifying you of the rejection of your
       appeal, you were advised of the option to escalate the matter to
       an Independent Adjudication Service administered by our client’s
       Accredited Trade Association. As your appeal was also rejected
       at that stage, we must inform you that all avenues of appeal
       have now been exhausted.
       >
       > Considering the evidence, we are satisfied that the PCN has
       been issued in line with industry standards and is compliant
       with the International Parking Community’s (IPC) code of
       practice. The signage of the car park also complies with the
       International Parking Community’s Code of Practice.
       >
       > Please be advised that the original amount of the PCN was
       £100.00. As outlined in the notice, a reduced amount of £60.00
       would have been accepted as full and final settlement if payment
       had been received within 14 days from the date of issue.
       Unfortunately, as no payment was received within that time
       frame, the opportunity to pay the reduced amount has now
       expired. As a result of continued non-payment and additional
       charges, the balance has increased and now stands at £170.00.
       >
       > The additional charge which has been levied on your Parking
       Charge of £70 is the amount set out in both the British Parking
       Association and International Parking Community Codes of
       Practice as the amount which may be added to a Parking Charge
       when a Parking Charge remains unpaid and when further recovery
       is required. Our client is a member of the International Parking
       Community which is a government approved Accredited Trade
       Association (ATA) for Private Parking. Our client adheres to the
       ATA’s Code of Practice. The £70 does not represent the cost of
       recovery but is a reasonable amount in relation to the Parking
       Charge amount, in order to encourage early payment of the
       Parking Charge without the need for debt recovery. It is a fair
       amount set by our client’s government-approved Accredited Trade
       Association Code of Practice. There are however also costs
       incurred by our client in relation to debt recovery services.
       >
       > It is unclear why you would need to inspect any agreement
       between our client and the landowner as you are not party to
       that agreement, nor could it aid your dispute or any potential
       defence.
       >
       >
       > Please note that we will not be addressing any further
       correspondence related to disputes of the same nature, as we
       have already provided you with a response. However, should you
       wish to raise a new dispute, we will investigate the matter
       further and respond accordingly.
       >
       > We ask that you make the full payment of £170.00 within 7 days
       of receipt of this email.
       >
       >
       > You can make payment in the following ways:
       > • Contact us on 0330 822 9950 (our opening times are Monday-
       Friday 9:00- 17:00);
       > • portal.moorsidelegal.co.uk - Login to our portal
       > •
  HTML https://pay.moorside.legal
       - Quick Pay
       >
       >
       > If you fail to respond or make payment, we may be instructed
       by our client to issue legal proceedings against you. This will
       incur further costs and fees that will be added to the
       outstanding balance. You may wish to seek independent legal
       advice.
       > "
       > ======
       >
       > They claimed "The terms and conditions were clearly displayed
       in prominent places within the car park" - but again as I
       appealed before it is not true:
       >
       > There is no entrance sign. And the only sign that appears to
       relate to the car park is tiny and practically hidden, not
       placed in close proximity (but about 25 feet away from the
       parking spaces), i.e., the tiny one on the building behind the
       trees and green space, not obvious at all. The font size is too
       small to be able to signify it relates to the car park. So
       motorists cannot be expected to read a sign that they did not
       see because of its distance from the car park and because it is
       obscured by a tree which had a lot more leaves on it when the
       PCN was issued compared to the picture they showed as evidence
       (there is only one taken by them in winter 2019 when tree leaves
       already fell off).
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       #Post#: 110014--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Letter Before Claim from Moorside Legal (on behalf of
       Parking Control Management UK)
   DIR By: DWMB2
       Date: February 17, 2026, 2:11 am
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       Their reply mentions a copy of the Notice to Keeper, can you
       show us this?
       If you haven't already, make sure you have evidence that the
       signage isn't (or more importantly, wasn't at the time)
       prominent like they claim.
       You may draft a reply disputing any claims with which you
       disagree and show us. I wouldn't get into too much back and
       forth as they're unlikely to be interested, but at least you can
       show you've made repeated attempts to engage on the substantive
       issue.
       #Post#: 110842--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Letter Before Claim from Moorside Legal (on behalf of
       Parking Control Management UK)
   DIR By: PrimacyOfPace
       Date: February 23, 2026, 2:57 pm
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       I'm in a similar situation to the OP (except a leaseholder where
       PCM have issued a ticket to a vehicle parked on the space owned
       by myself under a leasehold) and I after 12 months Moorside are
       pursing with a "Letter before Claim". I have sent a modified
       version of the response above to both
       litigationteam@moorsidelegal.co.uk,
       help@moorsidelegal.co.uk. I did get a bounce back from help@
       directing me to their portal and I did receive the following
       from litigationteam@ "Thank you for your email.
       We aim to respond to all emails within 14 days of receipt in the
       order in which they are received. We kindly ask that you do not
       chase a response during that time as it will allow us to respond
       to your email as quickly as possible.
       Please ensure you have provided our reference number so that we
       can locate your account. You will find our reference number in
       the letters we have sent you. If it is not provided, it may be
       difficult for us to identify your account and that may cause
       delays.
       Data Protection
       If a claim has been issued against you and within your Court
       response you provided an email address, we will not need to
       carry out further Data Protection checks. If you did not, and
       have not already provided it within your email, you will need to
       provide your full name and address (including postcode) before
       we can disclose any information to you. This is so that we can
       confirm we are speaking to the correct individual.
       Third parties
       If you are contacting us on behalf of someone else, we will need
       their authority before we can speak with you. They can provide
       us with this authority by calling us on 0330 828 5850 or by
       writing to us confirming their full name, address, reference
       number, your full name, and that they consent to us sharing
       their personal data with you.
       Alternative contact
       To make a quick payment visit
  HTML https://customer.moorsidelegal.co.uk/QuickPay
       You can register
       online at www.moorsidelegal.co.uk where you can manage your
       account, make payment, or set up a payment plan. You can speak
       to us on 0330 828 5850. Our opening times are Monday-Friday
       9:00-17:00.
       If a claim has been issued
       If a County Court Claim has been issued against you, emailing us
       will not put the claim on hold. You will need to follow any
       instructions given to you by the Court. You may wish to seek
       independent legal or debt advice.
       Yours sincerely
       Moorside Legal
       0330 828 5850
       moorsidelegal.co.uk
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       information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have
       received this email in error) please notify the sender
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       and may be unlawful. Please note that neither Moorside Legal nor
       the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses, and it is
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       Registered in England and Wales with Company Number 15069347
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       - SRA ID 8006077 Registered office address: Ground Floor Jade
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       Moorside Legal Services Limited All Rights Reserved
       "
       #Post#: 110844--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Letter Before Claim from Moorside Legal (on behalf of
       Parking Control Management UK)
   DIR By: jfollows
       Date: February 23, 2026, 3:04 pm
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       Please start your own thread
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       > We operate some "house rules" on the site.
       >
       > 1. We operate a "one case, one thread" rule. This means that
       you should keep any posts relating to one case (one incident of
       speeding, one PCN, etc) to a single thread. Do not start
       multiple topics on the same case.
       --- End Quote ---
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