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       #Post#: 102153--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Brent, Not parked within bay markings (24), Cumberland
       Avenue cpz. Yellow line not visible due to water and leaves.
   DIR By: pepipoo_is_gone
       Date: December 12, 2025, 6:37 am
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       Hi all would like to bump this thread as the deadline is
       approaching. Many thanks!
       #Post#: 102223--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Brent, Not parked within bay markings (24), Cumberland
       Avenue cpz. Yellow line not visible due to water and leaves.
   DIR By: pepipoo_is_gone
       Date: December 12, 2025, 12:01 pm
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       Updated version:
       I’m sincerely sorry that my parking has caused concern. I always
       try to park properly and within the rules, and it was not my
       intention to cause any issue.
       When I parked the night before, the end of the bay was really
       difficult to judge because the road was covered by standing
       water and leaves. A lot of it cleared up by the next morning
       when the PCN photos were taken, but even in those you can see
       that some road markings were still obscured by standing water.
       For example, in the picture with the white scooter, the
       kerb-side yellow line is submerged for several feet behind the
       vehicle. I hope this reflects how difficult it was to see the
       road markings and bay at the time of parking (which was a rainy
       night when even more of the road was covered).
       I also noticed that the PCN appears to have been issued
       immediately, with no observation time recorded. As set out in
       Brent’s published parking policy, a CEO is normally expected to
       allow a minimum observation period in situations where a
       statutory exemption, such as loading, might apply. With no
       observation time recorded, it appears that this assessment may
       not have been carried out.
       Given the very poor visibility of the bay markings at the time I
       parked, and the lack of any recorded observation to confirm that
       no exemption applied, I would be very grateful if you could
       consider cancelling the PCN as a matter of fairness and
       discretion.
       #Post#: 102289--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Brent, Not parked within bay markings (24), Cumberland
       Avenue cpz. Yellow line not visible due to water and leaves.
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: December 13, 2025, 7:05 am
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       I would add:
       Please also send me the traffic management order for this
       location if you reject my challenge.
       #Post#: 108415--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Brent, Not parked within bay markings (24), Cumberland
       Avenue cpz. Yellow line not visible due to water and leaves.
   DIR By: pepipoo_is_gone
       Date: February 2, 2026, 10:39 am
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       Hi all, I've had the informal challenge rejected with absolutely
       no reference to the content of the appeal. What is the suggested
       path forward?
       #Post#: 108416--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Brent, Not parked within bay markings (24), Cumberland
       Avenue cpz. Yellow line not visible due to water and leaves.
   DIR By: John U.K.
       Date: February 2, 2026, 10:41 am
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       Please to post up the rejection.
       #Post#: 108421--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Brent, Not parked within bay markings (24), Cumberland
       Avenue cpz. Yellow line not visible due to water and leaves.
   DIR By: pepipoo_is_gone
       Date: February 2, 2026, 11:00 am
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       Rejection letter as requested [LINK
  HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/18ldc7yTReWR6hHuCeBdw9GXj3f6fUOdV/view?usp=sharing]
       #Post#: 109267--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Brent, Not parked within bay markings (24), Cumberland
       Avenue cpz. Yellow line not visible due to water and leaves.
   DIR By: pepipoo_is_gone
       Date: February 9, 2026, 6:00 pm
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       Bumping this thread
       #Post#: 109270--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Brent, Not parked within bay markings (24), Cumberland
       Avenue cpz. Yellow line not visible due to water and leaves.
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: February 9, 2026, 6:21 pm
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       --- Quote from: pepipoo_is_gone link ---
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       > Bumping this thread
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       OK, main thing to establish is, are you the owner of the car ?
       This is because the next enforcement stage is the sending of a
       postal Notice to Owner to the owner as recorded on the V5C
       Registration Certificate. If you want to take the matter further
       and not pay the discount, you have to wait for this to be
       served. If you're not the owner please tell about who owns the
       car, is it a lease or hire company for instance ?
       The discount option is lost if you wait for the NtO, but when
       refusing representations against them, most councils re-offer
       it. The exception is Havering. If you want to take the council
       to London Tribunals, there is no discount option there at all.
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