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Parking Advice - Parked in a Residents Only Bay with Pay and
Display Ticket
DIR By: liverpoolpcn
Date: December 2, 2025, 12:17 pm
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Hello,
Hoping you can advise.
Our gardener was doing some work in our garden.
There are two bays next to each other, one with a Pay and
Display / Resident Permit Holders only, and a second Resident's
Permit Holders Only.
Resident's Permit Only bay:
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Pay & Display bay:
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I paid for 2hrs parking.
The gardener accidentally parked in the Residents Bay and was
issued a PCN.
I appealed to the council on his behalf. They rejected the
appeal, stating that his ticket was not valid and so a PCN was
correctly issued.
Rejection Notice:
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The charge code that is attached is:
12S - Parked in a residents or shared use parking place without
clearly displaying either a permit or voucher or pay and display
ticket issued for that place
However, I am not sure if this is correct.
Should the correct code in fact be
19 - Parked in a residents’ or shared use parking place or zone
either displaying an invalid permit or voucher or pay and
display ticket - or after the expiry of paid for time.
Code contravention:
The contravention occurs when a vehicle waits in a residents’ or
shared use parking place or zone displaying an invalid permit
voucher or pay and display ticket that would have been valid for
that parking place at some time or after the expiry of paid for
time.
Would grounds for appeal be allowed?
Regarding timing, the council had sent a Notice to Owner to an
old address, which was being updated with DVLA. It is now
correct. The council have agreed to 're-set' the ticket and
restart the process, allowing either payment of the reduced
charge, or to appeal to NTO.
Thank you.
#Post#: 100769--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parking Advice - Parked in a Residents Only Bay with Pay and
Display Ticket
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: December 2, 2025, 4:04 pm
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The code 12s would appear to be wrong on two counts - the bay
just says permit so it should be code 16, and the suffix s means
shared use bay and it isn't.
It could only be code 19 if it was expired/invalid visitor's
permit, not a pay bay session, unless it is a shared use bay.
It's hard to tell from the pics where the van was in relation to
signage.
Where is this on Google Maps.
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#Post#: 100838--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parking Advice - Parked in a Residents Only Bay with Pay and
Display Ticket
DIR By: liverpoolpcn
Date: December 3, 2025, 6:59 am
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Hello,
I spoke to the Council on the phone tis afternoon as I couldn't
log onto the portal to view images.
Explained my reason for contact and they have agreed as a one
off gesture of goodwill to cancel the PCN.
Checked 30 mins ago and the portal is showing no payment due.
Thanks for sanity check / advice on this StamfordMan.
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Re: Parking Advice - Parked in a Residents Only Bay with Pay and
Display Ticket
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: December 3, 2025, 7:23 am
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That is fortunate as Liverpool usually plays hardball.
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Re: Parking Advice - Parked in a Residents Only Bay with Pay and
Display Ticket
DIR By: liverpoolpcn
Date: December 3, 2025, 8:26 am
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I was surprised also. Thank you again.
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