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#Post#: 9826--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN when genuinely loading
DIR By: Baxtinho
Date: November 11, 2023, 4:38 am
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
>
> Loading, (as confirmed by adjudications going back to the
90s), includes all activities associated with that like getting
signature, finding the person to take delivery, etc. Whether
staying while customer checks the device for operation would be
within that is something you'd have to put in front of an
adjudicator.
>
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Thanks.
Would you just leave out bits about testing then?
Maybe say that I had to wait for the correct person, then it
took a minute for them to remove the faulty kit for me to
remove.
I still think they were really harsh doing me for six minutes!
#Post#: 9831--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN when genuinely loading
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: November 11, 2023, 5:29 am
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All I would put is that there was a slight delay in obtaining
acceptance of the delivery because the customer insisted on
checking the goods were in good order.
#Post#: 9845--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN when genuinely loading
DIR By: DancingDad
Date: November 11, 2023, 8:08 am
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Unless the sign says otherwise, there is no general limit on
loading except "as long as necessary"
Inherent within that is "but not one second more"
The five minutes is simply an observation guideline.
I would keep it all simple.
I was delivering X to Y
I delivered the goods, obtained a delivery signature and
returned to the car.
Here is a copy of the signed delivery note (and invoice if
available)
Please apply the loading exemption
Anything else is padding and as others have said, be careful you
don't trip yourself up or imply time that could be argued was
unnecessary.
I assume the printer was in a large and awkward box?
Dimensions and weight can help.
#Post#: 9847--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN when genuinely loading
DIR By: Pastmybest
Date: November 11, 2023, 8:49 am
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--- Quote from: DancingDad link ---
>
> Unless the sign says otherwise, there is no general limit on
loading except "as long as necessary"
> Inherent within that is "but not one second more"
> The five minutes is simply an observation guideline.
>
> I would keep it all simple.
> I was delivering X to Y
> I delivered the goods, obtained a delivery signature and
returned to the car.
> Here is a copy of the signed delivery note (and invoice if
available)
> Please apply the loading exemption
>
> Anything else is padding and as others have said, be careful
you don't trip yourself up or imply time that could be argued
was unnecessary.
>
> I assume the printer was in a large and awkward box?
> Dimensions and weight can help.
>
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+1 justifying time can come later and getting the goods checked
is an allowable part of the loading procedure. It is common that
goods are checked before they are signed for
#Post#: 9858--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN when genuinely loading
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: November 11, 2023, 10:59 am
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+1.
OP, you were given a PCN for parking your passenger car in a
loading bay and when you reappeared the CEO had given you a
ticket. Absolutely correct based on what they knew.
Don't fall into the trap of reading more into the PCN than this
i.e. don't introduce superfluous issues into reps.
I work for ****;
I was instructed to deliver ** to ***;
I parked in the loading bay, delivered the *** and returned as
soon possible as I had other deliveries to make;
As this was a delivery, it follows that most of my activity was
away from the vehicle and that this would have been unknown to
the CEO who, I accept, was simply doing their job on the basis
of what they could see.
#Post#: 10744--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN when genuinely loading
DIR By: Baxtinho
Date: November 20, 2023, 1:36 pm
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We only went and bloody won, lads! Thanks to everyone who helped
me.
HTML https://i.imgur.com/J7to0MA.jpg
#Post#: 10756--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN when genuinely loading
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: November 20, 2023, 3:36 pm
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Well done, and for an informal challenge too !
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