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#Post#: 100650--------------------------------------------------
NIP for failure to comply with traffic light - 1sec Any grounds
to contest
By: artoyebi Date: December 2, 2025, 5:16 am
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Hello,
I really need some advice, I would like to know if I have a fair
chance of winning this as I face disqualification if I get any
further point.
Also, is it worth hiring a solicitor?
Offence: Drive on road other than motorway, fail comply with red
/ green arrow / lane closure light signals -
automatic equipment
Date and time: 21/11/2025 at 23:22 hours.
Location: A1 Great North Way j/w Finchley Ln N/B NW4 (7016)
seconds.
Recorded time into Red: 1 seconds.
May I add that at the time that I reached the light, it was
still on amber.
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#Post#: 100651--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP for failure to comply with traffic light - 1sec Any grou
nds to contest
By: FuzzyDuck Date: December 2, 2025, 5:22 am
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I assume your car was the one in the far right lane? If so it
looks bang to rights, clearly passing the red light (where I
assume the line was) on red. The light would have been amber for
3 seconds or so before turning red, which should have been ample
time to stop.
So are you currently on 9 points or more?
#Post#: 100654--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP for failure to comply with traffic light - 1sec Any grou
nds to contest
By: artoyebi Date: December 2, 2025, 5:33 am
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Yes, my car is the one to the far right and I am on 6 points in
my first 2 years.
#Post#: 100656--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP for failure to comply with traffic light - 1sec Any grou
nds to contest
By: Southpaw82 Date: December 2, 2025, 5:46 am
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[quote author=artoyebi link=topic=9003.msg100654#msg100654
date=1764675192]
Yes, my car is the one to the far right and I am on 6 points in
my first 2 years.
[/quote]
What you say makes no sense. Unless you’re going to accumulate
12 points in 3 years you don’t face disqualification. Similarly,
as a new driver you face revocation if you hit 6 points - which
you say you already have.
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Re: NIP for failure to comply with traffic light - 1sec Any grou
nds to contest
By: artoyebi Date: December 2, 2025, 5:51 am
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I got the 6 points before getting my full license.
#Post#: 100658--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP for failure to comply with traffic light - 1sec Any grou
nds to contest
By: FuzzyDuck Date: December 2, 2025, 6:26 am
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So you won't be getting a disqualification, you will be getting
your licence revoked (totally different process). Which will
require you retake both parts of the driving test again.
If you accept the inevitable fixed penalty, the DVLA will soon
after revoke your licence. You could take it court, plead not
guilty and defend the charge, but it seems very unlikely you
would be successful based on the compelling evidence. Likewise
persuading the court to not endorse your licence or to award you
a short driving ban is a very unlikely outcome. Unlikely a
solicitor will be able to influence the outcome either.
Can't see any way out of your licence being revoked.
#Post#: 100680--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP for failure to comply with traffic light - 1sec Any grou
nds to contest
By: JustLoveCars Date: December 2, 2025, 8:05 am
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[quote author=artoyebi link=topic=9003.msg100650#msg100650
date=1764674205]
May I add that at the time that I reached the light, it was
still on amber.
[/quote]
...but clearly red when you passed the stop line.
Have you gone back and checked the timing of the amber phase?
It should be 3 seconds +/- 0.25s. If it's within tolerance then
you do not appear to have a defence.
#Post#: 100685--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP for failure to comply with traffic light - 1sec Any grou
nds to contest
By: FuzzyDuck Date: December 2, 2025, 8:22 am
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And also amber means stop (unless it is unsafe to do so).
#Post#: 100689--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP for failure to comply with traffic light - 1sec Any grou
nds to contest
By: 666 Date: December 2, 2025, 8:41 am
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[quote author=Raykay link=topic=9003.msg100686#msg100686
date=1764685820]
[quote author=FuzzyDuck link=topic=9003.msg100658#msg100658
date=1764678388]
So you won't be getting a disqualification, you will be getting
your licence revoked (totally different process). Which will
require you retake both parts of the driving test again.[/quote]
The probationary period for new drivers only applies after they
qualify, if the OP was given the 6 points as a learner, they do
not count for revocation - Road Traffic (New Drivers) Act 1995.
[/quote]
The Act applies when "the penalty points to be taken into
account under section 29 of the Road Traffic Offenders Act 1988
on that occasion number six or more;"
In the OP's case the relevant points will number nine, so yes,
his licence will be revoked.
The points accrued as a learner most definitely do count.
#Post#: 100691--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP for failure to comply with traffic light - 1sec Any grou
nds to contest
By: NewJudge Date: December 2, 2025, 8:44 am
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[quote]The probationary period for new drivers only applies
after they qualify, if the OP was given the 6 points as a
learner, they do not count for revocation - Road Traffic (New
Drivers) Act 1995.[/quote]
That is incorrect. Points gained before the test was passed
count towards the total. If an offence committed during the
probationary period takes the driver to six or more (including
any imposed before the test was passed) that leads to
revocation.
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