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DVLA SJPN – Vehicle disposed of before alleged offence date (PCP
return). Seeking advice on withdrawal / contacting DVLA
By: enigmalive Date: December 2, 2025, 4:57 am
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Hello all,
I’m looking for some guidance on a DVLA Single Justice Procedure
Notice relating to a vehicle insurance offence.
The SJPN alleges that the keeper “kept an uninsured vehicle” in
June 2025.
However, the vehicle had already been returned months earlier,
in February 2025, under a PCP agreement.
The vehicle was collected by Manheim on behalf of the finance
company, and the inspector completed the V5C motor trader
section at the point of collection.
Evidence I currently have:
Manheim email confirming the inspection/collection appointment
Manheim inspection report with Feb 25 collection date and
signature
Finance provider’s letter confirming the vehicle was “returned
on xx February 2025”
Scanned copy of the V5C motor trader slip completed by the
Manheim inspector which I completely forgot to post to DVLA !
I also want to note that we never received the Fixed Penalty
Notice DVLA say they issued in June. The SJPN is the first
correspondence seen.
Important context:
The vehicle was registered in my wife’s name, but because of her
health issues and severe anxiety, I cannot involve her in
anything stressful or court-related.
For this reason, a full court hearing is not an option, and I am
trying to resolve this without it escalating.
My questions:
Is it advisable to contact DVLA Prosecutions immediately (with
the evidence) before entering any plea, to request that they
review/withdraw the case?
Does this situation fit the statutory defence that the accused
was not the keeper at the time of the alleged offence?
Based on experience with DVLA enforcement cases, what is the
recommended approach?
Has anyone here had success getting an SJPN withdrawn by
emailing DVLA with proof that the vehicle was sold/returned
before the offence date? (via prosecutions@dvla.gov.uk or
dvlaenforcement@dvla.gov.uk)
If DVLA refuse, what realistic options remain that avoid a court
appearance?
Any help or experience would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
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Re: DVLA SJPN – Vehicle disposed of before alleged offence date
(PCP return). Seeking advice on withdrawal / contacting
By: enigmalive Date: December 2, 2025, 4:59 am
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Scanned copies of SJPN and V5C
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Re: DVLA SJPN – Vehicle disposed of before alleged offence date
(PCP return). Seeking advice on withdrawal / contacting
By: DWMB2 Date: December 2, 2025, 8:22 am
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[quote author=enigmalive link=topic=9002.msg100645#msg100645
date=1764673047]
Scanned copy of the V5C motor trader slip completed by the
Manheim inspector which I completely forgot to post to DVLA !
[/quote]
When, if at all, did you eventually send it off? This would seem
like the reason your wife now has the SJPN.
#Post#: 100692--------------------------------------------------
Re: DVLA SJPN – Vehicle disposed of before alleged offence date
(PCP return). Seeking advice on withdrawal / contacting
By: andy_foster Date: December 2, 2025, 8:45 am
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To summarise -
You failed to notify the DVLA of the disposal of your wife's
car, and have 3 questions -
1. Does the statutory defence of not being the keeper at the
material time and having notified the DVLA of same, apply when
you failed to notify the DVLA that she was no longer the keeper?
If you ask ChatGPT, it might give you the answer that you want
to hear, but you already know the correct answer.
2. Is it worth trying to talk the DVLA into dropping the case?
I think you're asking the wrong people.
I would however, note that you have presumably (on your wife's
behalf) ignored numerous offers of an out of court settlement.
The DVLA generally prefer that people give them money than
having to take them to court to enforce the "or else" in their
kind offers, because they don't get the money from the fines.
However, leaving it until they have already instigated court
proceedings to talk to them is not the best starting position.
3. To avoid a court appearance, she can plead guilty to the
SJPN. It explains this on the SJPN.
Out of curiosity are you wife's health conditions, solely her
heath conditions, or are they a prediction of whet she will do
to your health when she finds out what you've done?
N.B. Whilst on the face of it, you are the villain in this
pantomime, the offence was committed by your wife (albeit by
your failure to notify the DVLA), and she should respond to the
SJPN (assuming that you do not have power of attorney).
#Post#: 101610--------------------------------------------------
Re: DVLA SJPN – Vehicle disposed of before alleged offence date
(PCP return). Seeking advice on withdrawal / contacting
By: enigmalive Date: December 8, 2025, 5:07 pm
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[quote author=DWMB2 link=topic=9002.msg100684#msg100684
date=1764685331]
[quote author=enigmalive link=topic=9002.msg100645#msg100645
date=1764673047]
Scanned copy of the V5C motor trader slip completed by the
Manheim inspector which I completely forgot to post to DVLA !
[/quote]
When, if at all, did you eventually send it off? This would seem
like the reason your wife now has the SJPN.
[/quote]
Hello, thank you for your response.
The slip was never sent because it remained in a drawer after it
was signed and handed to us by the collection driver. One state
that it had already been sent, as I would not have sent it by
recorded delivery in any case.
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Re: DVLA SJPN – Vehicle disposed of before alleged offence date
(PCP return). Seeking advice on withdrawal / contacting
By: enigmalive Date: December 8, 2025, 5:17 pm
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[quote author=andy_foster link=topic=9002.msg100692#msg100692
date=1764686723]
To summarise -
You failed to notify the DVLA of the disposal of your wife's
car, and have 3 questions -
1. Does the statutory defence of not being the keeper at the
material time and having notified the DVLA of same, apply when
you failed to notify the DVLA that she was no longer the keeper?
If you ask ChatGPT, it might give you the answer that you want
to hear, but you already know the correct answer.
2. Is it worth trying to talk the DVLA into dropping the case?
I think you're asking the wrong people.
I would however, note that you have presumably (on your wife's
behalf) ignored numerous offers of an out of court settlement.
The DVLA generally prefer that people give them money than
having to take them to court to enforce the "or else" in their
kind offers, because they don't get the money from the fines.
However, leaving it until they have already instigated court
proceedings to talk to them is not the best starting position.
3. To avoid a court appearance, she can plead guilty to the
SJPN. It explains this on the SJPN.
Out of curiosity are you wife's health conditions, solely her
heath conditions, or are they a prediction of whet she will do
to your health when she finds out what you've done?
N.B. Whilst on the face of it, you are the villain in this
pantomime, the offence was committed by your wife (albeit by
your failure to notify the DVLA), and she should respond to the
SJPN (assuming that you do not have power of attorney).
[/quote]
Thank you for your time and input.
I agree that ChatGPT always tend to give the answer you want to
hear.
Regarding the DVLA letters, we genuinely have not received
anything from them about this. The only correspondence we’ve had
is the SJPN, which is why the situation has come as such a
surprise.
It seems there may not be any option now other than pleading
guilty and accepting whatever penalty is set. Sadly this was a
significant mistake on our part, and I think it’s important for
people to be aware that not sending the completed slip to the
DVLA can have serious consequences.
Thanks again for your advice.
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Re: DVLA SJPN – Vehicle disposed of before alleged offence date
(PCP return). Seeking advice on withdrawal / contacting
By: DWMB2 Date: December 8, 2025, 6:13 pm
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[quote author=enigmalive link=topic=9002.msg101612#msg101612
date=1765235874]
it’s important for people to be aware that not sending the
completed slip to the DVLA can have serious consequences.
[/quote]
There are a high number of cases across all 3 main areas of this
forum (criminal matters, council PCNs and private parking), in
which a failure to update the registered keeper details of a
vehicle is at least partly to blame for the situation a poster
finds themselves in.
#Post#: 102043--------------------------------------------------
Re: DVLA SJPN – Vehicle disposed of before alleged offence date
(PCP return). Seeking advice on withdrawal / contacting
By: enigmalive Date: December 11, 2025, 9:18 am
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[quote author=DWMB2 link=topic=9002.msg101619#msg101619
date=1765239205]
[quote author=enigmalive link=topic=9002.msg101612#msg101612
date=1765235874]
it’s important for people to be aware that not sending the
completed slip to the DVLA can have serious consequences.
[/quote]
There are a high number of cases across all 3 main areas of this
forum (criminal matters, council PCNs and private parking), in
which a failure to update the registered keeper details of a
vehicle is at least partly to blame for the situation a poster
finds themselves in.
[/quote]
Thanks for your response.
I wrote to the DVLA but haven’t had a reply yet, so I’m now
preparing to send the guilty plea before the deadline.
Just to confirm:
1. Is it OK to post the plea (recorded) on the 21st day from the
date shown on the SJPN?
2. Can I include the completed slip we forgot to send, along
with the plea, or should I send that separately to DVLA with the
date the vehicle was collected by the auction?
3. Is the MC100 (Statement of assets and other financial
circumstances) mandatory to fill out ?
Thanks again for your help.
#Post#: 102053--------------------------------------------------
Re: DVLA SJPN – Vehicle disposed of before alleged offence date
(PCP return). Seeking advice on withdrawal / contacting
By: andy_foster Date: December 11, 2025, 9:47 am
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[quote author=enigmalive link=topic=9002.msg102043#msg102043
date=1765466294]
I wrote to the DVLA but haven’t had a reply yet, so I’m now
preparing to send the guilty plea before the deadline.
Just to confirm:
1. Is it OK to post the plea (recorded) on the 21st day from the
date shown on the SJPN?[/quote]
What does the SJPN say?
If the plea has to be received within the 21 days, then clearly
not.
Why on earth would you want to enter a plea by post at the last
minute if hoping that the DVLA will change their mind? Do you
have access to the internet, such that you could enter a plea
online at literally the last minute?
[quote]2. Can I include the completed slip we forgot to send,
along with the plea, or should I send that separately to DVLA
with the date the vehicle was collected by the auction?[/quote]
A plea of insanity is unique in criminal law in that the
standard of proof on the defence is beyond all reasonable doubt,
as opposed to on the balance of probabilities for all other
matters (or raising an issue).
Technically you could send a pair of worn socks with your plea,
which might be marginally more helpful as regards an insanity
plea.
This whole thing was caused by you not notifying the DVLA of
change of keeper. Not doing so was a separate offence in and of
itself, but that is not be pursued and rarely is. Until you have
notified the DVLA of change of keeper, more bad news is likely
to be coming your wife's way, as already explained by DWMB2.
[quote]3. Is the MC100 (Statement of assets and other financial
circumstances) mandatory to fill out ?[/quote]
Arguably, Article 6 ECHR negates any putative requirement to do
so until you have been convicted, as you are entitled to a
presumption of innocence. If you are pleading guilty, then I'd
be less confident.
#Post#: 102070--------------------------------------------------
Re: DVLA SJPN – Vehicle disposed of before alleged offence date
(PCP return). Seeking advice on withdrawal / contacting
By: mickR Date: December 11, 2025, 1:05 pm
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not withstanding the lack of action by the OP... would the
finance Co not have informed DVLA? rather than rely on an ex
renter? or requested a new V5 at the time.
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