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#Post#: 100563--------------------------------------------------
NIP by speeding camera at London Road Derby - any grounds to con
test?
By: AceKingPin Date: December 1, 2025, 11:44 am
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Hello,
The vehicle in question was recorded as doing 39 mph in a 30 mph
zone on 19/10/25. It is a lease vehicle, so the Derbyshire
Constabulary contacted the registered keeper on 23/10/25. The
registered keeper responded with the driver details on 29/10/25
by email. However, the leaseholder did not receive the NIP until
18/11/25. I was the driver and received the revised notice on
27/11/25.
The location was identified as only London Road Derby, but there
is no other location information to pinpoint the camera that
recorded this speed.
I have 2 questions:
1. The NIP was served correctly, but the constabulary took 20
days between 29/10 and 18/11 to serve the NIP on the leaseholder
- is this a problem?
2. How can I obtain further location information on the camera
that recorded this, as I do not recall any signage to notify me
of the presence of a camera on this road (although it was a long
road).
Many thanks, and kind regards,
#Post#: 100573--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP by speeding camera at London Road Derby - any grounds to
contest?
By: FuzzyDuck Date: December 1, 2025, 12:21 pm
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[quote author=AceKingPin link=topic=8990.msg100563#msg100563
date=1764611091]
1. The NIP was served correctly, but the constabulary took 20
days between 29/10 and 18/11 to serve the NIP on the leaseholder
- is this a problem?
[/quote]
Nope. The only NIP time limit is on the initial one that was
sent to the RK.
[quote author=AceKingPin link=topic=8990.msg100563#msg100563
date=1764611091]
2. How can I obtain further location information on the camera
that recorded this, as I do not recall any signage to notify me
of the presence of a camera on this road (although it was a long
road).
[/quote]
Since no signage warning you of a possible presence of a speed
camera is required, the exact location is of no concern (unless
it was considered vague enough to be confusing).
Checking sources, there doesn't appear to be a fixed camera on
London Road, but there are two known mobile sites. Does the NIP
mention it being a "manned" camera?
You could always ask for any photographs "to help with
identification of the driver". They often supply these and may
help identify the camera type and location.
#Post#: 100639--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP by speeding camera at London Road Derby - any grounds to
contest?
By: AceKingPin Date: December 2, 2025, 4:35 am
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Thank you [member=1345]FuzzyDuck[/member]. Looking through the
evidence, the camera was a LTI 20.20 Ultralyte 1000 mobile speed
camera, so it must be one of the mobile sites. Before I ask the
constabulary for photos, would you have the 2 locations of both
known mobile cameras?
Many thanks and kind regards
#Post#: 100653--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP by speeding camera at London Road Derby - any grounds to
contest?
By: baroudeur Date: December 2, 2025, 5:29 am
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[quote author=AceKingPin link=topic=8990.msg100639#msg100639
date=1764671728]
Thank you [member=1345]FuzzyDuck[/member]. Looking through the
evidence, the camera was a LTI 20.20 Ultralyte 1000 mobile speed
camera, so it must be one of the mobile sites. Before I ask the
constabulary for photos, would you have the 2 locations of both
known mobile cameras?
Many thanks and kind regards
[/quote]
Opposite Wickes and RTC Business Park are two reported locations
but a mobile camera could, by definition, be virtually anywhere.
.
#Post#: 100991--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP by speeding camera at London Road Derby - any grounds to
contest?
By: AceKingPin Date: December 4, 2025, 8:34 am
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Thank you @baroudeur. I obtained the location from them - it
looks like it was opposite the RTS business park on
HTML https://w3w.co/tracks.moss.motel.
Using a Google maps streetview search, I cannot see any 30 mph
signs on the approach to this area, nor any speed camera warning
signs, after the roundabout from Derby city itself.
The area is an industrial park area with no residential
properties, and is an A-road (A5194) for what it's worth.
Does any of the above form a contestable reason to dispute this
at all?
Is there any way I can verify the lack of signage (the Google
streetview photos are between 1 and 3 years old)?
Many thanks and kind regards,
#Post#: 100996--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP by speeding camera at London Road Derby - any grounds to
contest?
By: andy_foster Date: December 4, 2025, 8:46 am
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If it is a 30mph limit with a compliant system of street
lighting, the only speed limit signs required are where the
limit changes (or where there ceases to be a complaint system of
street lighting. Conventional repeaters are not permitted, let
alone required.
Unless the change of limit was not adequately signed on the
route you took on that occasion (assuming that you came from a
higher limit at some point in your journey), then no, the fact
that you can't find any signs on GSV is not a defence.
#Post#: 101020--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP by speeding camera at London Road Derby - any grounds to
contest?
By: AceKingPin Date: December 4, 2025, 10:59 am
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Ok thanks everyone for their help. Looks like I'll proceed
without contesting in that case.
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