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       #Post#: 100329--------------------------------------------------
        TFL - O/S 28, 30 BUCKINGHAM PALACE ROAD SW1W
   DIR By: hirerspcn
       Date: November 29, 2025, 10:35 am
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       I am a Private hire driver. The vehicle is under hire to me
       (less than 6 months hire agreement).
       I had a pre-booking and waiting for a passenger, however the
       booking ended up being cancelled.
       Letter Images:
  HTML https://imgpile.com/p/CiQKyrC
       Location:
  HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/qNf8qwWrhKqjFArd7
       Street View:
  HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/CoBb39z3rFt8qTP77
       Video Footage:
  HTML https://streamable.com/afg98h
       *The letter is from about slightly more than a month ago as I
       was waiting for the footage from TFL which I requested multiple
       times. Third times the charm
       #Post#: 100335--------------------------------------------------
       Re:  TFL - O/S 28, 30 BUCKINGHAM PALACE ROAD SW1W
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: November 29, 2025, 11:37 am
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       Have you proof of the booking and its cancellation ? If one
       submits reps on the basis you are a PHV waiting for a customer,
       it is essential to provide some collateral to support your
       representations
       #Post#: 100362--------------------------------------------------
       Re:  TFL - O/S 28, 30 BUCKINGHAM PALACE ROAD SW1W
   DIR By: hirerspcn
       Date: November 29, 2025, 6:53 pm
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       This is the only proof i have:
  HTML https://imgpile.com/p/SvoQCwC
       #Post#: 100380--------------------------------------------------
       Re:  TFL - O/S 28, 30 BUCKINGHAM PALACE ROAD SW1W
   DIR By: H C Andersen
       Date: November 30, 2025, 5:12 am
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       PCN issued 15 Oct, therefore unless TfL extended your 28-day
       period for appealing then you're too late to submit anything.
       When did you receive the DVD and in response to the date of
       which request? Was the DVD accompanied by a letter? Have you
       anything from them indicating that the enforcement clock has
       stopped?
       #Post#: 100402--------------------------------------------------
       Re:  TFL - O/S 28, 30 BUCKINGHAM PALACE ROAD SW1W
   DIR By: hirerspcn
       Date: November 30, 2025, 8:50 am
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       --- Quote from: H C Andersen link ---
       >
       > PCN issued 15 Oct, therefore unless TfL extended your 28-day
       period for appealing then you're too late to submit anything.
       >
       > When did you receive the DVD and in response to the date of
       which request? Was the DVD accompanied by a letter? Have you
       anything from them indicating that the enforcement clock has
       stopped?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I have asked them every time i called to put the PCN on hold and
       they agreed.
       I first called on 20/10/2025
       Second Time i called on 03/11/2025 followed by this letter
       around 2 days later:
  HTML https://imgpile.com/p/JDO1dH4
       Third time i called on 18/11/2025
       followed by the DVD received on 27/11/2025
       #Post#: 100408--------------------------------------------------
       Re:  TFL - O/S 28, 30 BUCKINGHAM PALACE ROAD SW1W
   DIR By: H C Andersen
       Date: November 30, 2025, 10:51 am
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       Second Time i called on 03/11/2025 followed by this letter
       around 2 days later..
       A letter would have a date, but none is visible in your link.
       Anyway, all you can do is submit reps ASP.
       (a) the alleged contravention did not occur.
       (b)the recipient—
       (i)never was the owner of the vehicle in question,
       As regards the contravention ....whatever you have to say...
       As regards the issue of ownership, I am not the registered
       keeper and I contest that that this person was legally permitted
       to seek to transfer liability to me as the 'owner' and this is
       supported by their failure to effect this in the prescribed
       manner, including supplying the authority with the documents
       mandated under the regulations. If the authority claim that they
       are permitted to treat me as being the 'owner', then in any
       rejection they must provide the proof provided to them by the
       registered keeper. Simply asserting that everything was
       conducted in accordance with the regulations would be
       insufficient, particularly as this evidence would have to be
       produced at adjudication.
       #Post#: 100428--------------------------------------------------
       Re:  TFL - O/S 28, 30 BUCKINGHAM PALACE ROAD SW1W
   DIR By: hirerspcn
       Date: November 30, 2025, 3:10 pm
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       You gave me 2 options, which should i choose on the website?
       Also, are you saying that i should appeal based on the ownership
       paragraph only or
       My appeal + ownership.
       Draft appeal:
       Dear TFL,
       The contravention did not occur. I am a PHV driver and I had
       received a booking to pick up a passenger at this location. The
       booking was made at 08:36am and I had arrived at the location at
       08:42am where the passenger should have been waiting for me.
       After waiting for a while, the booking had been cancelled and I
       promptly left the area.
       Sincerly,
       Driver
       ____________________________________________
       #Post#: 100449--------------------------------------------------
       Re:  TFL - O/S 28, 30 BUCKINGHAM PALACE ROAD SW1W
   DIR By: H C Andersen
       Date: December 1, 2025, 2:39 am
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       Both IMO.
       Contravention did not occur, and
       I was never the owner.....
       #Post#: 100523--------------------------------------------------
       Re:  TFL - O/S 28, 30 BUCKINGHAM PALACE ROAD SW1W
   DIR By: hirerspcn
       Date: December 1, 2025, 8:44 am
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       Ok, please check out my second draft:
       Dear TFL,
       The contravention did not occur. I am a PHV driver and I had
       received a booking to pick up a passenger at this location. The
       booking was made at 08:36am and I had arrived at the location at
       08:42am where the passenger should have been waiting for me.
       After waiting for a while, the booking had been cancelled and I
       promptly left the area.
       As for the vehicle, I am not the registered keeper and I contest
       that this person was legally permitted to seek to transfer
       liability to me as the 'owner' and this is supported by their
       failure to effect this in the prescribed manner, including
       supplying the authority with the documents mandated under the
       regulations.
       If the authority claim that they are permitted to treat me as
       being the 'owner', then in any rejection they must provide the
       proof provided to them by the registered keeper. Simply
       asserting that everything was conducted in accordance with the
       regulations would be insufficient, particularly as this evidence
       would have to be produced at adjudication.
       Sincerly,
       Driver
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       1. Should i attach the screenshot of the booking cancellation?
       2. What option should i choose from the appeals page? I have
       these options:
       - The Contravention did not Occur.
       - The Traffic Order was invalid.
       - I was not the owner/keeper at the time of the Contravention
       - The Vehicle has been taken without my consent
       - The Penalty has been paid in full, or has been paid at the
       reduced amount within the specified period
       - The Penalty Charge exceeds the applicable amount.
       - We are a Hire Firm and have supplied the name of the hirer.
       - There has been a procedural impropriety on the part of the
       Enforcement Authority
       - Any mitigating circumstances you wish to raise
       #Post#: 100547--------------------------------------------------
       Re:  TFL - O/S 28, 30 BUCKINGHAM PALACE ROAD SW1W
   DIR By: H C Andersen
       Date: December 1, 2025, 10:30 am
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       I set these out word for word:
       Contravention....
       I was not the.....
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