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#Post#: 100296--------------------------------------------------
Re: Croydon Council - Code 23 - Parked in a parking place or
area not designated for that type of vehicle. Church Street
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: November 29, 2025, 4:30 am
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I can see the full PCN now, thanks. So, it's Church St, Croydon
o/s no. 35.
Photos aren't required.
Library pictures or GSV would be available. You're not disputing
the contravention, are you?
Stick with substantive issues IMO.
#Post#: 101274--------------------------------------------------
Re: Croydon Council - Code 23 - Parked in a parking place or
area not designated for that type of vehicle. Church Street
DIR By: JOJO1209
Date: December 6, 2025, 10:13 am
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[member=7039]HC[/member] Andersen
Thanks.
I’d stick to the main/substantive issues, IMO.
Just to be clear, I’m not an expert.
For example, there’s the missing suffix (not stating the grounds
clearly). Are there any other solid points you can see?
And what about the unclear/blurry signage they uploaded with the
PCN?
I went to the location to take some photos and realised the PCN
has the wrong location. I was actually parked outside 31–35
Church Street.
Outside No. 35 there’s a different bay with similar
restrictions.
Does that make a difference?
Stick with substantive issues IMO... Like??? Clarification will
help.
Should I leave out the mobility issues?
#Post#: 101276--------------------------------------------------
Re: Croydon Council - Code 23 - Parked in a parking place or
area not designated for that type of vehicle. Church Street
DIR By: roythebus
Date: December 6, 2025, 10:27 am
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It's far easier to use mobility issues if you can get a blue
badge. I managed to get one as I too have difficulty walking
very far and have some invisible things wrong. It's worth
mentioning i suppose, but there again may be better to use the
council's failings to your advantage.
#Post#: 101327--------------------------------------------------
Re: Croydon Council - Code 23 - Parked in a parking place or
area not designated for that type of vehicle. Church Street
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: December 7, 2025, 4:36 am
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I went to the location to take some photos and realised the PCN
has the wrong location.
Now you tell us!
Perhaps...
Since receiving the PCN, I have discovered that in the vicinity
of the alleged contravention there are 2 parking places marked
LOADING ONLY. One runs from nos. 27 -33 at which point it
terminates to be followed by a 24/7 waiting restriction which
protects the vehicle crossover to the rear entrance of the
Iceland store (which is situated in Surrey Street). This is then
followed by a further parking place marked LOADING ONLY which
extends runs from nos.35-41.
These parking places are distinct.
The PCN is clear: 'Church Street, Croydon, os 35'. Therefore I
was alleged to have contravened whichever restriction applies to
the parking place which runs from nos. 35-41. But this is not in
evidence because not only was I parked in the parking place
which terminates at no. 33, the blurred traffic signs in
evidence relate to this parking place and not 35-41. Therefore,
not only do your photos show that I was not parked where
alleged, they also do not indicate what restriction applied 'os
35' because none of the photos shows that parking place, its
road markings or applicable traffic sign.
In short: you allege I was parked 'os 35' and contravened
whichever restriction applied at that place. But I wasn't,
therefore I couldn't.
Please cancel the PCN.
#Post#: 102553--------------------------------------------------
Re: Croydon Council - Code 23 - Parked in a parking place or
area not designated for that type of vehicle. Church Street
DIR By: JOJO1209
Date: December 15, 2025, 12:16 pm
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#Roythebus
How did you go about applying for the blue badge?
Thanks
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Re: Croydon Council - Code 23 - Parked in a parking place or
area not designated for that type of vehicle. Church Street
DIR By: JOJO1209
Date: December 15, 2025, 12:32 pm
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#HC Andersen
Quote
I went to the location to take some photos and realised the PCN
has the wrong location.
Thanks for the additional challenge points. Brilliant write up!
When sending this additional information
Should I include pictures of the 2 bays with location or include
a link to the Google street view showing the 2 separate bays
and door numbers?
Thanks
#Post#: 102740--------------------------------------------------
Re: Croydon Council - Code 23 - Parked in a parking place or
area not designated for that type of vehicle. Church Street
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: December 16, 2025, 4:46 pm
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If you have anything that backs up your challenge include it.
#Post#: 103008--------------------------------------------------
Re: Croydon Council - Code 23 - Parked in a parking place or
area not designated for that type of vehicle. Church Street
DIR By: JOJO1209
Date: December 18, 2025, 7:40 am
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Seeking advice: informal rejection and issues pictorial evidence
provided by Council.
I need some advice regarding the informal rejection I received
by email yesterday. The experts may identify issues with the
rejection letter.
Link below to the original letter emailed yesterday.
HTML https://ibb.co/jZjxRM5j
They have dismissed the issue of the missing suffice that it is
for administrative purposes; ineffect denied that the PCN has
insufficient information describing the contractrvention for the
motorist to understand the contravention. The PCN
needs to identify, whether by wording or images, that the class
of vehicle
for which the bay is designated is goods vehicles only.
Also, I noticed a few issues with the evidence attached to the
letter:
* The title of the council's picture on Page 4 labelled
“outside No35,” is showing Nos. 29 A & B ( The Lyca Shop) which
is incorrect. I have attached the link to the council 's picture
which is on page 4 of the rejection letter below.
HTML https://ibb.co/FbBmw5W0
Current GSV showing Nos. 27 - 35 No.s Church Street including
the two bays and the double yellow line separating the two bays.
HTML https://ibb.co/nsHg6T1S
HTML https://ibb.co/jP8LZvYw
HTML https://ibb.co/7J895YM7
HTML https://www.instantstreetview.com/@51.373493,-0.102113,209.18h,-27.39p,1.91z,vgv-lCaS5L74BhJqM5FtIw
See attached link
HTML https://www.instantstreetview.com/@51.373442,-0.1024,94h,10.39p,2.7z,2w_QXUVANf3u6y4OQL9l5Q
Link below to the Files with all the pictures including the PCN
and The Authorities evidence/ pictures.
HTML https://ibb.co/7J895YM7
HTML https://ibb.co/nsHg6T1S
HTML https://ibb.co/jP8LZvYw
HTML https://ibb.co/jZjxRM5j
HTML https://ibb.co/FbBmw5W0
HTML https://ibb.co/mFYSNpCF
HTML https://ibb.co/CpSqrdGp
HTML https://ibb.co/gCS2Hy9
HTML https://ibb.co/sJDbxy0X
HTML https://ibb.co/7N0t3Hzj
HTML https://ibb.co/BKcK5nLZ
HTML https://ibb.co/Q3sKGV9P
HTML https://ibb.co/21ScSKDr
HTML https://ibb.co/fVjh9sQS
HTML https://ibb.co/84SgGDF1
HTML https://ibb.co/214VRjKr
HTML https://ibb.co/DgGZdHYy
Any advice or help would be appreciated.
Any advice on how to proceed?
Thanks in advance.
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Re: Croydon Council - Code 23 - Parked in a parking place or
area not designated for that type of vehicle. Church Street
DIR By: JOJO1209
Date: December 22, 2025, 8:21 am
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[member=428]H C Andersen[/member]
[member=2249]stamfordman[/member]
@CP1857
Advice Needed: Croydon Council PCN Rejection
Croydon Council has rejected my informal challenge. I’ve posted
the full details and their rejection letter in my earlier post
here: Reply #17 December 18, 2025, 01:40:55 pm
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/index.php?action=post;topic=8956.15;last_msg=103008#:~:text=%C2%AB%C2%A0on%3A%20December%2018,Insert%20Quote
Could I please ask for your expert eyes on my case? I’d really
appreciate your thoughts:
Many thanks in advance for any advice—it’s a great help.
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Re: Croydon Council - Code 23 - Parked in a parking place or
area not designated for that type of vehicle. Church Street
DIR By: JOJO1209
Date: January 5, 2026, 8:53 am
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[member=7392]H[/member] C Anderson
[member=2249]stamfordman[/member]
[member=1]cp8759[/member]
[member=12]Incandescent[/member]
[member=6500]404BrainNotFound[/member]
Urgent advice needed
Please could I have some urgent advice.
The rejection letter states that I have until 5 January 2026 to
pay the reduced amount of £80.
For background, please see my previous post:
Reply #17 on: December 18, 2025, 01:40:55 pm for full details
and a copy of the rejection letter.
The council’s initial rejection is dated 17 December 2025.
I then sent a further challenge around 20 December 2025, raising
the issue of the wrong location. I have not yet received any
response to this additional challenge, which I assume may be due
to the Christmas and New Year holiday period.
My questions are:
Are they likely to consider and respond to this additional
challenge about the wrong location?
Are they under any obligation to place the PCN on hold while
they review and respond to the additional challenge?
Will the discounted amount be reoffered, given that both my
initial challenge and the additional challenge were submitted
while the PCN was still at the discounted rate?
I am worried about losing the option to pay the discounted
amount if they do not respond to my additional challenge before
today.
I am therefore in a dilemma as to whether:
to pay the discounted amount, which expires today (5 January
2026) according to the rejection letter dated 17 December 2025,
or
to wait and see if they respond to my additional challenge.
Also:
What are the realistic chances of success if this goes all the
way to the tribunal?
Would I be able to get help from the expert forum members in
drafting my tribunal representations if needed?
Many thanks in advance for your time and help.
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