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       #Post#: 100102--------------------------------------------------
       Advice on collision with Virgin Media/O2 van in private car park
       By: AmikoFrizz Date: November 27, 2025, 12:04 pm
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       Hi, we request your advice on a collision that happened with a
       Virgin Media/O2 van in the private car park of our block of
       apartments. Your point of view would be highly appreciated, as
       me and my wife are shaken after all what happened. This is the
       story.
       1) This Virgin Media/O2 van driver entered the private car park
       at a speed, without the necessary green visitor badge. Signage
       is on site and at the entrance of the block. Not sure if he
       checked what the rules are with the flat owner/tenant he was
       visiting.
       2) He parked initially in the private car park of flat no. 18
       and then quickly reversed, still at speed, moving into no. 10
       private car park, but all of a sudden he moved up again for the
       3rd time to go into no. 4 private car park. None of these car
       parks had anything to do with him, as he went instead to work in
       flat no. 17 (we have evidence of this and spoke with the no. 17
       tenant). In first instance, he shouldn't have been at all in
       that area, as he didn't have a green visitor badge and indeed
       nothing to do with flats 18, 10 and 4.
       3) He caused a collision with our car, while carelessly
       reversing and moving the van from one space to the other for 3
       times, without any apparent logic. We have video of the
       collision, taken from the CCTV system of the apartments block.
       4) He argued a lot with my wife, was not cooperative, and at the
       end of the conversation, he refused exchanging insurance
       details, including driver's name, the registered keeper's name
       and their address. We managed to see and therefore obtain only
       the vehicle registration number. This individual was driving a
       Virgin Media/O2 Van and wearing the full Company uniform. We
       asked for these details several times, including his badge
       number, but he refused. The tenant of flat 17 is a witness of
       this.
       5) He also started recording and even threatened to call the
       Police on us (not sure for which reason).
       6) After over an hour of this incident, the van was still
       wrongly parked in flat no. 4 private car park (while he was
       working in flat 17, which doesn't have a private car park) and
       still without any green visitor badge displayed.
       - After all this, I had to report it to our block management
       company, which should issue the charge of £100 for misuse of the
       car park, as per signage and block regulations.
       - I also had to report the incident to the Police, as this
       individual refused to exchange insurance details. Police gave me
       a case number.
       - I'm sending a V888 form to DVLA to get the vehicle details of
       registered keeper, address, etc. For this, I need to obtain
       first a repair quote from a car body repairer.
       - Obviously, I'm preparing the insurance claim, even if the
       damage is nothing to the van (photos were taken) and just
       cosmetic damages such as paint transference, scuffs, minor
       scratches on the rear left corner of our car.
       - I'm going to open a very strong case/complaint with Virgin
       Media/O2. What is concerning is that this unstable individual
       while I write is still allowed to drive this way and even worse,
       enter people's homes.
       Thanks for your opinions and advice on what to do. We are not
       "litigators", but this wobbling guy pulled us into all this.
       Look forward to hearing from you.
       #Post#: 100103--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Advice on collision with Virgin Media/O2 van in private car 
       park
       By: DWMB2 Date: November 27, 2025, 12:17 pm
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       Point 1 seems largely irrelevant to the main matter.
       Concerning the collision, what exactly are you hoping for advice
       on, and what is your intended outcome?
       #Post#: 100104--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Advice on collision with Virgin Media/O2 van in private car 
       park
       By: Southpaw82 Date: November 27, 2025, 12:26 pm
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       Most of that post was wholly irrelevant. The simple answer is to
       report it to your insurer and leave it to them to deal with. Job
       jobbed.
       #Post#: 100126--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Advice on collision with Virgin Media/O2 van in private car 
       park
       By: roythebus Date: November 27, 2025, 3:09 pm
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       Was it substantial damage to your car or just a few little
       scratches? As others have said, the bulk of you post is sadly
       irrelevant. Send a complaint to Virgin/02, get their drivers
       details and let your insurers deal with the rest. Bear in mind
       you may well have to pay the excess if you claim and your
       insurers can't get it back from the van's insurance.
       #Post#: 100240--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Advice on collision with Virgin Media/O2 van in private car 
       park
       By: The Slithy Tove Date: November 28, 2025, 11:56 am
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       All the stuff about visitor permits and reporting to management
       is a load of petty guff and entirely irrelevant as far as a
       collision is concerned.
       Why submit (and pay for) a V888 form where you could simply
       contact the company whose name is plastered all over the van?
       I'm sure they will be interested if one of their vehicles was in
       a collision, especially if the driver never reported it. Don't
       go in all confrontational and hurling accusations about the
       driver. Just start by reporting that one of their vans has
       collided with your car, and the driver would not provide
       details, hence you contacting them. Only once that channel is
       established should you start any complaint about behaviour.
       And, as mentioned, just let your insurer deal with it.
       If your car was parked at the time, then liability is pretty
       obvious, especially if you have video. It should come back as a
       no fault claim, and you can claim any excess you incur from the
       other party.
       #Post#: 100253--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Advice on collision with Virgin Media/O2 van in private car 
       park
       By: andy_foster Date: November 28, 2025, 1:59 pm
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       The OP's voluminous and detailed complaints about matters
       ancillary to the matter in hand, might potentially help put the
       other party's involvement in the collision in a less favourable
       light, were the post to include any details whatsoever about the
       collision - beyond the borderline evasive "He caused a collision
       with our car".
       The obvious (to me) question, assuming that the other driver was
       indeed at fault in (or for) the collision, is why give so much
       detail to paint the other driver in a bad light, but omit any
       detail of the collision itself. What is the OP trying to hide?
       #Post#: 100323--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Advice on collision with Virgin Media/O2 van in private car 
       park
       By: sparx Date: November 29, 2025, 8:50 am
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       [quote]The obvious (to me) question, assuming that the other
       driver was indeed at fault in (or for) the collision, is why
       give so much detail to paint the other driver in a bad light,
       but omit any detail of the collision itself. What is the OP
       trying to hide?[/quote]
       Just annoyed that someone cannot reverse a van?
       From the OPs account I presumed that their car was parked, and
       they've, after the fact, obtained the CCTV footage of it being
       damaged.
       #Post#: 100333--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Advice on collision with Virgin Media/O2 van in private car 
       park
       By: DWMB2 Date: November 29, 2025, 11:33 am
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       I think you have perfectly highlighted Andy's point. Despite the
       length of the opening post, we don't even know whether the OP's
       car was parked at the time.
       #Post#: 100337--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Advice on collision with Virgin Media/O2 van in private car 
       park
       By: Southpaw82 Date: November 29, 2025, 12:39 pm
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       The OP also hasn’t come back, so it can’t be that important.
       #Post#: 100376--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Advice on collision with Virgin Media/O2 van in private car 
       park
       By: AmikoFrizz Date: November 30, 2025, 4:54 am
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       Thank you for all your comments, it's good to test an opinion
       with other points of view and reflect on it, that's why I posted
       on this forum.
       [quote author=DWMB2 link=topic=8949.msg100333#msg100333
       date=1764437590]
       I think you have perfectly highlighted Andy's point. Despite the
       length of the opening post, we don't even know whether the OP's
       car was parked at the time.
       [/quote]
       My car was moving slightly and carefully, reversing from the car
       park, and there was a collision with the van that was reversing
       from the 1st car park to the 2nd, and then quickly forward to
       the 3rd. Minor damage to our car and minor/no damage to the van.
       I have the impression that the van was moving erratically and
       unpredictably and created the conditions for the collision, but
       this opinion doesn't count anymore as is now an insurance
       matter, and, of course, the van driver disagreed and had a
       different view. We have full and clear CCTV coverage.
       [quote author=roythebus link=topic=8949.msg100126#msg100126
       date=1764277797]
       Was it substantial damage to your car or just a few little
       scratches? As others have said, the bulk of you post is sadly
       irrelevant. Send a complaint to Virgin/02, get their drivers
       details and let your insurers deal with the rest. Bear in mind
       you may well have to pay the excess if you claim and your
       insurers can't get it back from the van's insurance.
       [/quote]
       A few little scratches, but I had to report the fact to the
       Police as the driver refused to exchange details, and this led
       to opening an insurance claim. I understand that this might cost
       me money, but I think this is the right thing for protection and
       to be on the safe side, considering the whole behaviour and
       attitude of the counterpart. On a separate track, I'm definitely
       sending a complaint to Virgin/O2 about their driver.
       [quote author=The Slithy Tove
       link=topic=8949.msg100240#msg100240 date=1764352614]
       Why submit (and pay for) a V888 form where you could simply
       contact the company whose name is plastered all over the van?
       I'm sure they will be interested if one of their vehicles was in
       a collision, especially if the driver never reported it. Don't
       go in all confrontational and hurling accusations about the
       driver. Just start by reporting that one of their vans has
       collided with your car, and the driver would not provide
       details, hence you contacting them. Only once that channel is
       established should you start any complaint about behaviour.
       [/quote]
       Thanks, I'm reporting to Virgin Media/O2 the facts and then
       going into the details, with a complaint about the whole
       behaviour of their employee.
       [quote author=andy_foster link=topic=8949.msg100253#msg100253
       date=1764359994]
       [...] why give so much detail [...]
       [/quote]
       [quote author=DWMB2 link=topic=8949.msg100103#msg100103
       date=1764267420]
       Concerning the collision, what exactly are you hoping for advice
       on, and what is your intended outcome?
       [/quote]
       All the stuff about visitor permits, reporting to management,
       etc, etc was preceding a question that I actually forgot to ask
       to the forum in the initial post. Considering that this is now
       in the hands of the insurers and I can have some other costs, to
       recover these, do I have grounds to involve, in some ways,
       Virgin Media and/or the driver itself, Flat 17 landlord, or the
       block management Company?
       Thank you all.
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