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Camden - Broadfield Lane
DIR By: Mack
Date: November 26, 2025, 5:15 pm
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Hi,
Just wondering whether there is any chance to not pay this.
PCN late (18:22) on Saturday.
Heavy rain. Poor conditions.
Vehicle was parked there for couple hours and then left.
Must have been one of these motorcycle officers.
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Contravention Code16eContraventionParked in a permit space or
zone without a valid virtual permit or clearly displaying a
valid physical permit where required - car club bay.
Driver didn't notice any boards or markings just wondering what
are your thoughts on this?
14 days from Saturday to decide whether to challenge these
lovely people in Camden.
Pictures show car club bay.
Heavy rain and 3 year old screaming was enough for the driver to
not notice this.
Contravention Code16eContraventionParked in a permit space or
zone without a valid virtual permit or clearly displaying a
valid physical permit where required- car club bay.
Would be great to hear your thoughts.
Thank you.
#Post#: 99992--------------------------------------------------
Re: Camden - Broadfield Lane
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: November 26, 2025, 5:51 pm
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Here is the sign as one turns into Broadfield Lane.
Unfortunately, GSV have yet to take their camera van down there
so we don't know what lies beyond the sign, only you can tell
us. The sign indicates No Waiting (aka Parking) beyond the sign
except for permit holds with codes on the sign.
So why did you park down there ? Tell us and we can see if there
is a possible get-out. Clearly tradesmen and visitors need to
park, but we don't know what the council have done to support
this need. Normally visitors to residents must display a 24hr
visitor permit, but tradesmen and delivery vans etc will have
other arrangements, but we don't know what these are.
#Post#: 100420--------------------------------------------------
Re: Camden - Broadfield Lane
DIR By: Mack
Date: November 30, 2025, 1:06 pm
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Hi,
Thank you for reply.
Well looking at the google maps before 2024 there was a sign
controlled zone, but its note there currently.
I went there again to see what happened and took a photo in a
day light.
There are no other signs, except for a 'one way only' as one
enters the street.
There is a very small placket on the wall which I haven't seen
on the day, attached.
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But nothing else.
Which sign do yo refer to please: 'The sign indicates No Waiting
(aka Parking) beyond the sign except for permit holds with codes
on the sign.'
Thank you
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Re: Camden - Broadfield Lane
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: November 30, 2025, 1:46 pm
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The council's pic of sign is unreadable but yours shows it. I
think it needs a car club legend but we'll check this.
Do you have a permit for the zone.
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Re: Camden - Broadfield Lane
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: November 30, 2025, 5:34 pm
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Sorry, I forgot to put in the GSV link in my last post ! As the
Germans say, tut mir leid !
I found that there was a zone sign at the entrance to Broadfield
Lane in 2024 : -
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/Dc9RszJiRgtLiQda9
here it is untwisted round in 2022 : -
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/9GD7yZu9ZTsxX5Bi6
However that sign has disappeared in the latest GSV view of Sep
2025 : -
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/aau2XJjdzAyuZYaf9
This then begs the question, "is the zone still there, but the
sign is missing?" If it is, and there should be a sign there,
then you have a clear point to make in your representations.
#Post#: 100502--------------------------------------------------
Re: Camden - Broadfield Lane
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: December 1, 2025, 7:09 am
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The sign, markings and contravention description are conflicted.
IMO, the traffic sign for a Car Club bay MUST include the symbol
at column 3 of Item 5 here:
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#Post#: 100543--------------------------------------------------
Re: Camden - Broadfield Lane
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: December 1, 2025, 10:13 am
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The picture taken by the CEO looks like it's of a larger sign
than the repeater taken by the OP.
Camden's CPZ map says this road is in the CA-N Camden Square
zone so maybe the OP's sign is from a discontinued zone and
shouldn't be there.
But a signed bay is what it is regardless of zone and HCA and I
agree it has requirements for a club car bay but the CEO's pic
we can't make out.
Traffic order map below says CC-01 car club if that's the right
bay:
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#Post#: 100550--------------------------------------------------
Re: Camden - Broadfield Lane
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: December 1, 2025, 10:38 am
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OP, can you post the council's photos pl, I can't make out
theirs from yours.
Stamfordman's research shows a parking place reserved to Car
Club Permit Holders only, permit identifier CC-1.
So there needs to be a traffic sign to this effect.
OP, if it exists where is it?
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Re: Camden - Broadfield Lane
DIR By: Mack
Date: December 1, 2025, 4:16 pm
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Hi,
Thank you all for replies.
I couldn't see any other signs, definitely not something like
these mentioned in the chat above. (attached below)
Bay marked on the drawing above is spot on. Green space in front
was taken.
Really dodgy weather on that day and dark alley didn't help.
I'll try double check this, my family lives near by, but I do
not have a permit for this zone.
Being there again the other day I couldn't find any other signs
esxcept the ones posted already.
Hope this answers all the questions raised.
Definitely none of the below, if that is what you're asking
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Thank you
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Re: Camden - Broadfield Lane
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: December 1, 2025, 4:41 pm
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I have posted all the council pics in their full glory.
If Mack could go back and check the sign that the CEO has
captured that would be useful as it may not be the one they
think.
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