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#Post#: 99835--------------------------------------------------
Re: Stopping in a private parking
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: November 26, 2025, 4:21 am
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The local council might also be interested to learn about a
private parking operator issuing charges for vehicles parked on
the public highway.
(Given the double yellow lines, a motorist could in theory find
themselves receiving a penalty charge notice from the council
and then a parking charge notice from this operator for the same
incident!)
#Post#: 99873--------------------------------------------------
Re: Stopping in a private parking
DIR By: b789
Date: November 26, 2025, 6:28 am
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There is no penalty for stopping on DYLs. Only if they are
accompanied by single or double "blips" on the kerb. You can
stop on DYLs to load or unload.
#Post#: 99876--------------------------------------------------
Re: Stopping in a private parking
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: November 26, 2025, 6:41 am
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I know, and my post did not say otherwise.
I wasn't making reference to the OP's specific case, I was just
making a general observation about the setup at this location
and the fact that the private operator is enforcing on public
land on which parking is restricted.
#Post#: 99994--------------------------------------------------
Re: Stopping in a private parking
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: November 26, 2025, 6:04 pm
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For reference in case it is of use later (either with appeals or
complaints etc.), here's a screenshot of the Middlesbrough
Council adopted highways map - slightly more useful than many,
in that it specifically and separately shows the pavements -
here showing that the area where the OP's car stopped is indeed
an adopted highway:
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HTML https://ibb.co/jP8DNBW4
Alongside that, here's a GSV with the relevant area where the
vehicle was highlighted. Clearly not part of the private land:
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#Post#: 99997--------------------------------------------------
Re: Stopping in a private parking
DIR By: InterCity125
Date: November 27, 2025, 1:43 am
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Given that the reason given (on the NtK) is 'Obstructive
Parking' it seems pretty clear that they are issuing PCNs to
drivers who simply stop on the pavement for some reason.
As has been stated previously; this is fraudulent activity and
one wonders how many PCNs have been issued and paid by
unsuspecting members of the public?
I had a quick look on Facebook and a local community group say
that the location is a real hotspot for these PCNs. This clearly
needs a proper investigation.
#Post#: 100007--------------------------------------------------
Re: Stopping in a private parking
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: November 27, 2025, 3:58 am
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--- Quote from: InterCity125 link ---
>
> This clearly needs a proper investigation.
>
--- End Quote ---
Agreed. [member=7480]PayOrNotToPay[/member], your first priority
is to submit an appeal, the template for which b789 has provided
above. Once they respond (probably rejecting), the next step
would be a POPLA appeal, however I would also be minded to
recommend you go on the attack, and also raise complaints to as
many relevant people as possible, including the local council,
BPA, and the DVLA.
For now you can send the appeal and update us when they respond.
#Post#: 102358--------------------------------------------------
Re: Stopping in a private parking
DIR By: PayOrNotToPay
Date: December 13, 2025, 3:50 pm
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An email I received.
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#Post#: 102374--------------------------------------------------
Re: Stopping in a private parking
DIR By: InterCity125
Date: December 14, 2025, 3:30 am
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This reply is a cop out - they know that their fraud has been
rumbled. You need to keep the pressure on for answers.
Notice in particular how the say that the account has been
placed on 'indefinite hold' - this is their way of saying, "You
won't hear from us again". It's also their way of not providing
answers as to how your personal data has been wrongly obtained
and then misused.
A search on Facebook reveals at least one community group with a
mass of complaints about this site - how many of these people
are the parking operator now contacting to arrange refunds?
#Post#: 102387--------------------------------------------------
Re: Stopping in a private parking
DIR By: b789
Date: December 14, 2025, 6:10 am
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That letter is from the utterly powerless ZZPS. DO NOT respond
to ZZPS. They have zero standing to do anything. This is still a
matter for LDK. ZZPS are irrelevant to the alleged contract and
you are entitled to deal only with LDK as principal. However,
you must instruct ZZPS to erase your data and if they don't, you
can sue them of compensation under the Data Protections Act
2018.
Send there following email to LDK as info@ldkgroup.co.uk and CC
compliance@ldkgroup.co.uk and yourself. You can copy in ZPS if
you want, just to shut them down:
--- Quote ---
> Subject: PCN [reference] – formal notice to LDK Group Ltd only
/ cancellation and data misuse
>
> Dear LDK Group Ltd,
>
> Re: Parking Charge Notice [PCN reference] – Vehicle [VRM]
>
> I write to you as the registered keeper. This correspondence
is directed to LDK Group Ltd as principal. I do not recognise
ZZPS Ltd as having any standing in this matter and I will not
engage with them further. Any involvement of ZZPS is entirely a
matter between you and your agent.
>
> The recent email from ZZPS stating that the account has been
placed on “indefinite hold” is not an outcome. It is an attempt
to avoid addressing the substance of the matter and is wholly
inadequate.
>
> Your own evidence shows the vehicle was on the public
highway/adopted footway and was never parked on land you are
authorised to manage. No contract could arise, no breach
occurred, and no parking charge was ever lawfully issued. You
therefore had no reasonable cause to obtain my keeper data and
no lawful basis to process it.
>
> This is not a marginal or technical issue. Issuing parking
charges based on CCTV captures of vehicles on the public
highway, re-labelling those incidents as “private land”
contraventions, and then using that false premise to obtain DVLA
data and demand payment is a serious matter. It has now been
identified and documented.
>
> Accordingly, I require the following from LDK Group Ltd:
>
> [indent]1. Written confirmation that this PCN is cancelled,
the matter is closed, and no further action will be taken by LDK
or by any agent acting on LDK’s behalf (including no debt
recovery, no solicitor referral, no tracing, and no litigation).
>
> 2. Written confirmation that my personal data relating to this
PCN has been erased from LDK’s systems. The only exception is a
minimal suppression/audit record strictly limited to what is
necessary to evidence closure and to prevent any further DVLA
requests, re-ticketing, tracing, debt recovery activity, or
litigation in relation to this VRM and alleged event. You must
identify precisely what minimal data fields (if any) are being
retained, the lawful basis relied upon, and the retention
period.
>
> 3. Written confirmation that any third party already provided
with my personal data in relation to this PCN (including ZZPS
and any other debt recovery agent, solicitor, or tracing agent)
has been instructed to cease processing immediately and to erase
that data, and that those instructions have been complied with.
>
> 4. Confirmation of the date on which my keeper data was
obtained, the source relied upon (DVLA or otherwise), and a
complete list of all recipients to whom my data has been
disclosed (with the date of each disclosure).[/indent]
>
> For the avoidance of doubt, I do not consent to any further
contact from ZZPS Ltd or any other agent. Any future
correspondence must come from LDK Group Ltd directly.
>
> I am already reporting this matter, with evidence, to the
DVLA, the BPA, the ICO and the CMA. This email is a formal
pre-action notice: unless you provide the confirmations demanded
above (cancellation, erasure, and downstream erasure) within 14
days, I will commence county court proceedings for compensation
under the Data Protection Act 2018 for unlawful obtaining and
processing of my personal data. No further warning will be
given.
>
> You have 14 days to confirm cancellation and compliance.
>
> Yours faithfully,
>
> [Name]
> [Address]
--- End Quote ---
This should cuts ZZPS out completely, forces LDK to own the
conduct — contract, data, DVLA access, everything. If they later
try to resurrect the charge, this email becomes Exhibit A
showing they were warned and chose to continue.
However, you should send the following email to the ZZPS Data
Protection Officer (DPO) at dataprotection@zzps.co.uk and CC
yourself:
--- Quote ---
> Subject: Formal complaint to DPO – Erasure notice and
objection to processing (LDK Group PCN [ref] / VRM [ ])
>
> FAO: Data Protection Officer, ZZPS Ltd
>
> I write as the data subject. This is a formal complaint and a
formal notice exercising my rights under UK GDPR and the Data
Protection Act 2018.
>
> Background
> ZZPS Ltd has contacted me and/or processed my personal data in
relation to an alleged parking charge issued by LDK Group Ltd
(PCN reference [ ] / VRM [ ] / alleged event date [ ]). On the
evidence relied upon by the operator, the vehicle was not parked
on land controlled by the operator and no parking contract could
have been formed. In those circumstances there is no lawful
basis for ZZPS Ltd to process my data for “debt recovery” or any
related purpose.
>
> Notice of objection and restriction
> I formally object to any processing by ZZPS Ltd of my personal
data connected with this PCN (UK GDPR Article 21). You must
immediately restrict processing (Article 18) pending completion
of the actions demanded below. You must not contact me further
about payment, debt recovery, escalation, tracing, or
litigation.
>
> Erasure demand
> I require ZZPS Ltd to erase all personal data it holds
relating to me in connection with this PCN (UK GDPR Article 17),
including (without limitation) my name, address, VRM,
correspondence, notes, call logs, recordings, images, internal
case references, and any data received from LDK Group Ltd,
DVLA-derived keeper data, or any other source.
>
> The only permissible exception is a minimal suppression record
strictly limited to what is necessary to ensure that ZZPS does
not process or contact me again in relation to this PCN (e.g., a
“do not contact/do not process” marker). If you contend any
further retention is necessary, you must specify precisely:
>
> [indent]1. what data fields you propose to retain,
> 2. the lawful basis relied upon for retention, and
> 3. the retention period.[/indent]
>
> Third-party disclosure and downstream erasure
> If ZZPS has shared my data with any third party (including any
solicitor, tracing agent, or any other processor/sub-processor),
you must:
>
> [indent]1. identify each recipient and the date of disclosure,
and
> 2. confirm you have instructed each recipient to erase the
data and to cease all processing, and
> 3. confirm compliance with UK GDPR Article 19 (notification of
erasure/restriction to recipients).[/indent]
>
> Lawful basis and source of data
> Within 14 days, provide your written position on:
>
> [indent]1. the lawful basis ZZPS claims for processing my data
in relation to this PCN (Article 6),
> 2. the source(s) of the data ZZPS received, including whether
it was supplied by LDK Group Ltd and when, and
> 3. your retention policy applicable to this category of
data.[/indent]
>
> Timescale and notice of intended claim
> Given the circumstances and the clear dispute, continued
processing or failure to comply with this notice will be treated
as unlawful processing. If ZZPS does not confirm erasure (and
downstream erasure) within 14 days, I will escalate the matter
to the Information Commissioner’s Office and I will also
consider issuing a county court claim for compensation under the
Data Protection Act 2018 for distress arising from unlawful
processing, without further notice.
>
> All future contact must be in writing by email only, addressed
to the points above.
>
> Yours faithfully,
>
> [Full name]
> [Postal address]
> [Email address]
> [VRM]
> [PCN reference]
--- End Quote ---
#Post#: 103928--------------------------------------------------
Re: Stopping in a private parking
DIR By: PayOrNotToPay
Date: December 28, 2025, 4:30 pm
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